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Friday 0900-1100

AKINORI MAEMURA: OK, good morning, everyone. Now the APNIC member meeting will start. My name is Akinori Maemura, the chair of the Executive Council of APNIC. And there is new tradition which started in some, maybe, the previous meeting in Christchurch. As the chair, it is defined in our bylaws to preside at the member meeting. I started to sit here, and say something, and almost just kind of hand it over to Paul Wilson. That is why I am here. Welcome to the APNIC meeting. We have a lot of reports and also the actions here. We will we are now starting with the reports from the Secretariat for the first session in the morning and it is now, I am handing over my microphone to Paul Wilson.

SRINIVAS CHENDI: Good morning. Welcome to 27th annual member meeting. First of all, I would like to thank all our sponsors for today, JPNIC, NIDA and TWNIC. This session, like yesterday will be web casted. We have already web cast, live transcript, as you can see on my left and also audio feed. If anyone would like to participate, please join the Jabber chat. Ask questions or make comments. One other thing, tonight we are going to have an informal dinner. It is open for all. But you need to be registered by morning tea at the help desk or registration desk. The cost will be either you ask pay in US dollars, US$30 or AUD 35 or 1,300 pesos. But you need to be registered by morning tea. Paul Wilson.

PAUL WILSON: Good morning, everyone. My name is Paul Wilson, am I the director general of APNIC. Today is the last day of APNIC 27 open policy meeting. As usual it is the member meeting which is the day for, thank you, thank you, it is the day for member business that, it is still an open meeting. Everyone is welcome to be here. But the focus on today is to hear updates from the Secretariat, reports from the Secretariat, also, some reports from the business that we had during the week this week. And certainly, not at least, the next election for the APNIC Executive Council. So I will be explaining all of that as the morning goes on.

As you know, I am here with a fair collection of APNIC staff and today most of us are identified by the uniform. So if you would like to know anything from APNIC, if you need any support, particularly in terms of services received, then today is your last chance to find us to catch us to make use of our presence here and you are very welcome to do that, of course.

As Sunny said we need to thank our sponsors, JPNIC, NIDA KRNIC and TWNIC for your support for the meeting. Thank you to all three of you. To overview the agenda, this morning we have reports from the APNIC Secretariat. We have in the Secretariat a full senior management team in place and the four area reports from APNIC are going to be represented by all cases, the one responsible area manager. So you will meet them very shortly.

Before morning tea, we have got a rundown of the EC election procedure. The EC election is going to be under way today. So you will hear all about the voting requirements for the election. There is also chance before morning tea for any candidate to make a speech - a brief speech - to the audience in support of their nomination and their election. So that is before morning tea, hopefully, at 10:30. After which we will hear from the EC, from the chair, Akinori Maemura, the Treasurer, too, Mr Kuo-Wei Wu. I will report about the APNIC member survey which has been under way for the last couple of months and has been released before reports from the NRO, the IANA and other RIRs.

The EC election will be under way until just after lunch. Here is a reminder now if you are voting in the election you will need to have your ballot papers in before lunch. Late papers won't count.

In the afternoon, we have a few more things to do, by way of reports but importantly, in the afternoon, there will be the reports back from the meeting, and in particular, the policy SIG which was held yesterday. And we will be announcing the election result by afternoon tea and closing the meeting by afternoon tea, which will be supplied, so closing by about 3:30. Any questions or suggestions regarding the agenda?

This meeting is intended to be as open as it can be. There are microphones. If anyone has a question or contribution to make, please feel free to do so. I will give you a few reminders about that as the day goes on. You are most welcome to continue making a contribution.

I am going to be starting now with the reports from the Secretariat. I will remind you there are, on all the seats in the room, the copies of the APNIC annual report, the report for 2008. We produced it, we worked quite hard to produce that report as early as we can so it can be released by this meeting. What you will hear this morning are the reports from myself and the APNIC areas managers and the content coincided well with what you find in the report.

I have served for well over 10 years as APNIC Director General. It was 10 years ago APNIC moved from its initial location in Japan to Brisbane in Australia. So it is interesting to reflect back on the last 10 years of APNIC. When I joined, I was the sixth staff member in the APNIC office. We have grown since then by a factor of 10 to nearly 60 full-time staff. The office space has increased about five-fold to 1100 square metres now. The membership has increased nine times from 191 at the time to 1855 at the end of last year. Of course, the growth is continuing, we are higher than that number now. IP allocations have grown by a factor of 18 from just about a quarter of /8s per year to 5.25 /8s in the last year.

APNIC is allocating v4 address space faster than any of the other RIRs. So back 10 years ago, we were the smallest of three RIRs. These days there are five RIRs and APNIC is the most active in terms of IP address allocations, we are not the most active in terms of total member numbers or budgets but in terms of the number of addresses being consumed, the Asia Pacific is the most active in the world. 10 years go there was one root server serving the entire Asia Pacific region, now we have 36 or more, 22 being supported by APNIC.

APNIC in 2008 is what we will hear about today. By way of highlights, you will hear of the services of APNIC over the last year, in particular, the APNIC services project staff have been working very hard on MyAPNIC, the portal website by which members can receive a full suite of services including issues IP address requests and so on. It has been the subject of a lot of work for the last year.

We launched a fifth of the bi-yearly surveys, and I will talk about it later. The communications area of APNIC has been very involved with Internet governance activities and it is ongoing, and frankly, increasing challenge to us as the governments of the world and the broader community stakeholder communities of the world take more interest in Internet governance generally and in particular, in the areas of IP address and v4 address exhaustion and v6 transition too.

We are, as you will see in the survey, results which I will talk about in a little while. We are called on to keep providing more and more training. APNIC is a relatively small organization. We have a small, but extremely busy and active training team that we can't possibly make a huge dent on the training needs of the region with a team like that. So we are working on rolling out the larger effects and larger impact of training through things like online delivering, eLearning and finally, I can - we can also announce that the APNIC website, which has been the subject of intense work over the last year is going to be relaunched in the next week or so. The technical area, one of the really major activities over the last year, over several years in fact, has been the development of resource certification.

It is called for by the IETF through a series of RFCs which dictate how resources can be included in digital signed through standard, that is, security encryption mechanisms. It is something which APNIC has been leading among the RIRs in developing. We will hear more about that as well.

The business area is being a very active area this year as well. One of the things we have been working on is a formalised business continuity plan which has got to do with continuity of business in cases of any kinds of external environmental problems, disasters, for instance, so that APNIC is continuing to be operating as a robust, 24/7 service organization.

On the global stage, I mentioned Internet governance in particular, which is one of our major challenges at the moment. The Internet Governance Forum is the latest arena in which there are very active debates amongst a very broad community of interested parties, in particular, governments but also non-government organizations, civil society, a very broad range of private sector bodies and interests and organizations. We appeared very actively in the latest of the IGF meetings in Hyderabad in India. It is the third of the meetings. The next there will be another one this year and another one to be announced in 2010. I am sure that by the end of 2010 meeting we will hear about what the next arena for Internet governance discussion will be.

It is quite clear that the issue is not going to go away, that APNIC is the broader community of Internet Governance Organizations that have got a role to play if the long term that is going to be the subject of a lot of interest, and scrutiny, globally. We are needing to respond to a broader and wider, and frankly, more extensive outreach educational group. One of the areas that has come up is the world telecommunications forum, an ITU meeting which is also becoming a centre point, or an arena, in which IP address can be related on matters being discussed. The agendas are being launched through that which could have some impact, potentially, on the way APNIC and the other RIRs do our work.

We have also been involved during the last year of the OECD ministerial meeting in Seoul. Geoff Huston presented an address at the meeting as well as having contributed strongly to the OECD's paper on Internet issues. That is yet another new arena for us to be trying to cover as of the last year. Now, ICANN meetings continue, we are heavily involved with ICANN, often through the NRO, which I will be commenting about and reporting on later on.

The challenges that APNIC faces in the future in this whole arena, well, we have heard about a lot of them this year, things are changing fairly steadily and rapidly, but for this year, and the next couple of years we will be hearing a lot more about the IP address issues of the twin issues of v4 exhaustion and how we, as a community, are going to respond to that. How we will be able to evolve the current system of v4 distribution to take into account the end of the IANA pools. I am sure most, if not all, of you were at the policy SIG yesterday where there was quite a heated discussion, which you will hear more about today, we will wrap up about one particular aspect of the v4 exhaustion process which is how we will be able to recirculate or allow addresses to be recirculated from existing holders to other potential holders of address space through transfers. That, I expect, will, as that policy was passed by consensus yesterday, assuming consensus is maintained over the next the comment period which is coming up, that will be the subject of a lot of implementation work by APNIC and also importantly by the national industries of the region over the next several months.

IPv6 deployment is something that has come up very strongly in all the arenas I mentioned. The Internet governance arena is one I mentioned, the potential key role of APNIC is being discussed and recognized quite strongly. APNIC is called on by the member survey to assist with the deployment of IPv6 in whatever way we can. In our case, it is in the areas of promoting awareness of IPv6, training in issues of address management, deployment and so forth. It is a challenge for incoming year also.

Likewise, Internet governance is ongoing. Security is going to be an ongoing and increasing area of interest. I think there must exponential growth in security incidents that are occurring around the area of the security, routing security, it is something which APNIC has got a very strong and important role to play, probably not a role that is quite well enough recognized but we have seen in the last year in particular, some evidence of the potential for routing security attacks, things like the Pakistan YouTube incident, if they propagate more, the resource certification as well.

And finally, the other very uncertain aspect of the coming period is the impact of the economic downturn. Looking back over the last 10 years history in particular, and chart the fortunes of APNIC membership growth of address allocations over the different economic times we have seen, then it is quite interesting to see even during the Asian economic crisis of the mid 1990s, during the dot com crash of the early part of this decade, APNIC growth did not reverse at any point. We had periods of slower growth and slower allocation of IP addresses, slower up take of new membership but I think it is not terribly likely APNIC will suffer a reversal or a necessary contraction over the next year or so but the industry is certainly slowing down and starting to see that already.

One of the topics you will hear about today is the APNIC fee structure discussion which Kuo-Wei Wu, the treasurer, will report on. We have to take into account looking at APNIC fees on the APNIC EC, what are the likely outcomes of the current economic situation for APNIC.

So that is a summary, I suppose, an overview of what the last year has held for APNIC. We now have the chance to hear from the four APNIC areas. And I believe we are starting with the services area? And so George Kuo is going to join me for a report on the Services area. Just need to find where that is.

Sanjaya, the Area Services Manager, who was unable to join us for the meeting so George Kuo is presenting this. Thank you.

GEORGE KUO: Good morning, everyone. As Paul Wilson introduced, I'm presenting this for our area manager, Sanjaya. Just going to report to you the highlights and the achievements that we made in 2008. So, one of the very important features that we have introduced to our resource management system was the automation of distributing IPv6 space. As a result of this, we will be able to achieve faster turn around and we, this automation, the aggregation is also achieved for IPv6 allocation. And with the membership resource application, we also streamlined the process. Members, or potential members, will be able to apply for the membership and resource at the same time. As Paul mentioned earlier, important APNIC portal, we also introduced a new feature. It was launched last year. The objectives are to make it more user friendly, and more functionalities.

I will go into more details later. For the resource services you can see from the chart here, the continued growth of demand in IPv4 address space. One thing I like to point out, last year we made the most number of IPv6 delegations.

With continuing demand in IPv4 address space, due to a number of reasons, for example, broadband deployment, mobile Internet, we actually introduced an escalation procedure to make sure the host master continues to evaluate requests, better efficiency, making sure this resource requests are reviewed according to the policy criteria. So as you can see on the slides here, the evaluation is reviewed by the peer or escalated to the resource manager or the senior review team according to the resource request size, however, with this escalation procedure, we will be able to maintain the usual one, two, three, maximum three-day turn around. Just to give you a brief idea of actually what size of the request that we have been receiving last year, that went through this escalation procedure, you can see a great portion goes to /14 and /15s and also 20% of /13s. Where are the requests coming from? The majority are, obviously, from China, taking up 67 and followed by Japan and Korea.

So just to give you a quick review of actually the workload for our host. They actually handled 3,876 tickets in the host master queue. Last year, the host master also provided host master consultation during APNIC meeting, APRICOT and also attending other SANOG activity.

Next, for the member services just quick overview on the membership numbers for the last three years. You can also see on the graph here we have included the numbers of members for the NIRs because as we know, in this region, the NIRs also represent the LIRs within the economies. Member services also responded for continued development of MyAPNIC, the important portal.

Last year we introduced a user name and password log in. We did receive a lot of member's requests to have a simpler process for them to day-to-day operations. But we still maintain a digital certificate access, for the users to have the needs to go on line to vote, managing the users and also managing resource certification. We also added features, as part of the MyAPNIC part of the resource function you can activate and deactivate services and also other features such as collection management, and route generation can be done within MyAPNIC. So continuing to make improvement to MyAPNIC.

Just give you a quick review of what is coming this year. We are going to launch the new look of MyAPNIC with the aim of further improving the navigation and make it more user friendly.

So, quick stats again. Member services have provided more than 2,000 chats, as you know, members can talk to APNIC member services by chat. It has actually doubled since 2007. We also process over 10,000 tickets for the helpdesk and the tickets referred to mostly are membership application and queries regarding membership. For project system services, a few other important task achieved by the unit, we implemented a software to keep better track of statistics for membership and also for finance planning. Also, behind the deployment of IPv6 feature that was introduced in our resource management system.

In addition to this, the project team also spent a lot of time in improving the events management system, which were used in APRICOT 2008 and last APNIC meeting.

Also, supporting the release of the latest version of MyAPNIC and another important tool that was deployed was to upgrade the ticketing system that we use internally to receive the requests from the members.

And that is all from my report. Any questions?

PAUL WILSON: Keep the questions until the end of the reports. So next, Byron Ellacott will present the technical area report. Thank you very much.


BYRON ELLACOT: Good morning, everyone. My name is Byron. I am the Technical Area Manager of APNIC. It puts me in charge of the software unit, where in 2008, we rolled out the MyAPNIC user name password facilities and work on the technical system. Research and development, it has been quite a big year with the resource certification system and our usual statistics gathering and measurement processes.

In infrastructure Services one of our biggest deliverables from 2008 was IPv6 connectivity on many services, continuing through this coming year. Most of our work in the last year has been in response to the technical priorities set in 2007 survey. So you can see, sorry, on this side - the graph showing, there are places where activities, which fairly well corresponds to what we have done.

We are looking forward to the results of the most recent member survey to help us decide what to do in the coming years. So resource certification, we deployed the first functional RPKI system in the world, leading the way and looking forward to doing some work this year with the other players in this field. This is deployed in MyAPNIC with tools to create ROAs is AAOs.

In 2009 we are adding verification tools. In research and development, there is IETF standard work, measurement work and collaboration work too. The details are here and in the report.

In Infrastructure Services last year and continuing this year, there has been a lot of work on network reliability, we now dual homed and doing a lot of work to optimise the network configurations. We have done our IPv6 connectivity work, the DNA, mail and web services are running on IPv6 with more services following this year. We will also do work on the certification processes in this coming year.

So our priorities, high availability of our services, disaster recovery planning is a part of the overall business continuity planning of APNIC and member certification improvements. It is all I have from the technical area. I like to keep my updates brief. So I will hand over to who is next.

PAUL WILSON: German will be next

GERMAN VALDEZ: Thank you. Good morning. My name is German Valdez, I am the Communications Manager in APNIC. A review of this report. It talks about the different activities of the units of the work in the last year. Some priorities for this one, and also like to present to you the - what is going to be the APNIC new website.

We continue working through the year according to the top resource priorities. We tried to develop activities according to this guidance. We kept, basically, the same staff during the year. We changed a little bit the structure, internally, of the area. We started a new program, the IPv6 program led by Miwa Fujii and also we added a new unit led by Louise Flynn which is Marketing and Public Relations.

Last year was one of the busiest years and policy discussions. We considered 17 different proposals. Eight of them reached consensus and also implemented six new policies. Discussions were very diverse on IPv4, IPv6, DNS and numbers etc. I'd like to highlight two proposals that facilitate the access to v4 resources. Prop-053, which reduced the allocation size of /21 to /22 and also prop-057 of the plan of the customers.

Regarding the events, also, reached a new record last year. APNIC 26, the stand-alone meeting brought 237 participants, which represents a new record for our APNIC history. Also, we continued working in the online participation tools. For this particular meeting, we developed three different ways to access our discussions. We provided video and audio and chat room. We have another tool for all the audio and chat and also the transcriptions online. Last year, sorry, the policy discussion we reached a record in the Jabber user. We reached all day, 87 different accounts and users connected to the Jabber chat to follow the policy discussion.

Talking about the IPv6 program, this program started last August in response to a community request for action regarding the promotion and dissemination of information about IPv6. One of the most important activities that this program is going to do is try to collect information and regarding the exhaustion of IPv4 and also the transition of IPv6 and to collaborate with different entities and agencies to promote the transition to IPv6. In particular, we are trying to push the public sector. So many activities in this program will be focused on governmental bodies.

In order to help to promote the information regarding the transition to APNIC, the program developed with the website was launched at the 27 meeting. Just to give you a glance of the new web page, you can find this through the icons portal and also we are offering an IPv6 forum where you can share information and access information provided by APNIC and all members of the community.

Our Marketing and Public Relations Unit is working very hard. You can see the total of this unit through different products and services provided right now like, the MyAPNIC portal, the host certification products, the eLearning platform and also the new website and in general approach to all communications. This unit also has been working with public relations and different media companies.

We have developed, or have appointed a development process, to deal with the press and also to develop some support persons in APNIC and also liaison with sponsors.

External relations activities: we have been very busy. We are covering 50 different groups in the region, including the Network Operations Groups and the open policy meeting and the different NIRs. We are trying to formalise our relationships with organizations to sign MoU documents. We signed three last year with NZNOG, AUNOG and Japan. We expect also to sign a couple of MoUs today.

External activities, what we consider the global activities, we at APNIC understand the Internet resources are no longer in the exclusive interests of the Telecom communities. We understand more and more operational issues, involvement in the global forums are crucial to guarantee the stability of the Internet operations. In that sense, we were very busy participating in the Internet Governance Forum in India. We had a booth in conjunction with the NRO. We had a workshop, trying to identify some of the challenges faces the operators in the developing countries. And we were very busy attending different panels and during that week, we attended five different panels as speakers. Also, we were part of the ITU Telecom Asia in Bangkok with a stand and Paul Wilson spoke.

And also the OECD meeting in Seoul with Geoff Huston as a speaker and very good coverage from the press.

Training, very active, courses in 21 economies. Over 1400 people attended. For the first time we went to Guam and Brunei. We developed a full schedule for the year. You can find information on the web and newsletter, and we are planning to be in 34 locations and 26 different economies and for the first time, we are going to, planning to go to East Timor in August. Training right now is in intended for different topics covering resource management, DNS, DNSSec and routing.

One of the big achievements of the year was the developing of a new learning platform. This software is based on a company in India, we called it DimDim and it provided video, also chart. It is directional, activities, it is not just one way, participants can ask questions to the speaker. Just to give you a look of this platform, you can see that you are able to see the slides and see a new, on your left side bar, the people who are connected to the session in the right you can see the chat. And also, it is a way to raise questions on the structure. Also, we can provide a kind of board, where the instructor can use as a tool, to help the presentation.

Also, we have been working a very important project, which is the new website. At this moment, the design is done, the structure is done and we are working to up load the content and improve the accuracy of the content. We are very close to finishing the project and I would like to send you what is going to be the APNIC new website. There is a lot of effort in this project. We expect that we can publish the new website online in the following weeks. One of the benefits of this change is that you can find the data easier. Also, make policy submissions easier. Also, to find or use in an easier way. More events, in an easier way, and also you can find me easier. If you know, you wish to know my information for some reason, you can find it in an easier way information about the helpdesk in a live shot. Also considering the connectivity constraints we have in the region, we are providing low bandwidth version based on text.

Finally, some of the priorities for 2009. We are continuing to develop eLearning platform, defining a schedule for the year, working on development in training courses, what we are calling a new IPv6 course. It is IPv6 multihoming. We are able to work in the development of region of train the trainer program. Also, expand contacts to customer relation system. To keep working on the new website and the IPv6 program is going to be deploying in the sphere and our involvement in the governmental events.

And we are going to keep working in the APNIC presence in general, in international events. Of course, the events are going to be put in context of the results of the 2009 member survey. We try to keep the members involved in that. That is all from me, thank you.

PAUL WILSON: Thank you, German, the last area report is Richard Brown for the business area. We are just switching the stenography.

RICHARD BROWN: I'm going to give a brief overview of the business area. I'm basically going to break this into three main components. What we do, what we achieved in 2008 and what we were planning to do for 2009. Effective management resources, what I'm talking about here is really the effective use of the funds that we received from members. The financial and office management units within the business area which Irene and Connie in the area which most of you will know will provide a lot of background support to the running of APNIC. to so I think the key things to consider is that we do a lot of work in providing the applications to support the running of the business and you know, we do a lot of work in financial clients, we develop a lot of policies, as Paul pointed out earlier on today, APNIC has grown significantly and the machine that worked for 15 people needs a lot of refinement, so there's an ongoing piece of work where we're continually reviewing our policies to make sure that they're all relevant and we comply with all of the requirements of the stakeholders. So, one of the other key initiatives that we work towards is trying to create a nice green approach to the way we run our office and we do provide a lot of different types of reporting to a number of stakeholders. So I guess I don't have the flashy slides and things that the other areas have, but I think that the business area is the real machine room and we have got a lot on our plate.

At APNIC, we realize that our human resources, our staff are our greatest asset, so we do put a lot of effort into making sure that we recruit and maintain high quality staff. That we provide opportunities for a healthy work life balance for our staff. That we provide them with the training and development opportunities so they stay with APNIC and continue to serve the community.

Reporting analysis - now we moved on to the key achievements for 2008. As Byron talked about in his report, sorry, George talking about project services talked about the development or the pooling of application. We have a financial application now for managers to use so they can effectively monitor their expenses, basically a live feed from the finance system so we can effectively manage how we're performing against budget. That really helps us when we move on to planning and developing our activity plan and budget for the future years as well.

We have audited financial reports for 2008 which was a large piece of work by Irene in the finance team. We provide monthly reporting to the EC and we have done a lot of work supporting the KPMG fees study. We've helped and validated them with the data that underpins the analysis and also in 2008, we have taken on the role of the Secretariat functions.

Risk management is also a major component of what we do in the business area, so as I mentioned before, we are continually developing and refining our policies and procedures. And we work hard to ensure that there is strong compliance with the requirements. As Paul mentioned in his overview this morning, business continuity planning is a new activity that we've undertaken and the business area driving that. I'll give you a little more information on that point later on.

Business continuity planning. I think as I was saying in the slide pack, APNIC's overall risk management strategy requires us to have business continuity approach. What we did was, we leveraged off some work from RIPE NCC and we felt that we liked the approach that we were applying to APNIC. In the early stages, we had a risk assessment carried out to cover all resources and facilities in APNIC. We identified the risk and that formed the basis of our BCP process. We had consultants who had done the work at RIPE to come and get us started. We have a draft manual, we have done some high level training and scenario testing and towards the end of last year, we put together a project team from the staff across the APNIC team to aim towards getting a working BCP for 2009. So at this stage, we have a detailed project plan and a project team.

For completion in 2009, we will have a completed manual, we will have - by the middle of 2009, we will have an audit of our manual and processes. Successful audit of what we're aiming to achieve. We will then set up regular process testing and procedures of our disaster recovery systems and then we've have a broad training approach for all APNIC staff so that they're involved in this project. And then, as we're seeing more and more, we will start to demand of our suppliers that we get a view of their BCP so we can have security in the knowledge that their disaster recovery plans aren't going to be the weak plans of our processes.

Priorities for 2009 - as will be discussed later today, membership fees, here's an area where we're going to have to do some more modelling and support the decision-making decisions about that. We will continue to refine our activity planning and budget development processes. We worked on 2009 on developing a consultative bottom-up approach to developing the budget, and I think we can even refine that further this year.

We need to be mindful of economic activity when we develop the budget in October. We were just seeing the initial stages of the global meltdown and we really don't know how that's going to pan out, so as prudent financial managers, we need to keep an eye on that so we will work towards our EcoBiz accreditation with the local Government in Queensland so we can be awarded what they term an EcoBiz accreditation which shows that we are a green office and we have a general commitment to that.

We are working towards an enter prize resource planning application and performance management systems. We have a big year in 2009 ahead of us. Thank you very much.

PAUL WILSON: Thank you very much, Richard. So that concludes all area reports. There's one more project report that I want to present to you right now which is about what we might call an extracurricular activity for APNIC. It is a funded project known as the Information Society Innovation Fund which is a small grants program.

So this is an extension of an activity which APNIC has been involved with for some years in the pan-Asia Research and Development Program. It has been relaunched with a new set of partners including the international development centre, IDIC and the information society and Dot Asia and it is a small program for development activities into stimulating creative solutions to ICT which is Information Community indication Technology development needs in the Asia-Pacific region and places particular emphasis on the Internet, development of the Internet, Internet applications, connectively and social economic development.

So as I mentioned, there are four partners at the moment. The lead partner is the International Development Research Centre which is a long-standing Canadian development organization, and what they have done is provided funding to APNIC for APNIC to undertake the administrative actor activities in connection with the programs, so it is something which does not cost the APNIC membership in terms of membership funding but it is something that recognizes the capacity for the Secretariat.

So we have one full time staffer in APNIC, Sylvia'Cadena, who is the project manager. She's been involved in the organizing committee which involves two individuals from APNIC, myself and EC member Mao Ya. The website and the wiki design and the public relations development.

So the reason that we are investing in ISIF is similar to the reasons for contribution to the program, to the program in the past. It's a way of taking a small portion of APNIC resources to contribute back to the Internet community, particularly in the Asia-Pacific of course, for investing in ICT research and development.

You'll see from the APNIC member survey that RND is actually at the top of the list for member priorities and stakeholder priorities for activities and so the small grounds program is a way of carrying out part of that mission, supporting and research that can help the Internet to grow in the region. And to facilitate in the capacity of the other institutions and not just APNIC to undertake activities like these.

So in 2009, we - well in 2008 sorry, in the past year, we had the first round of ISIF project funding. There were 148 applications received from 22 different economies in the region. That's quite a hefty workload in terms of receiving and processing those applications.

The Grounds Committee approved 11 of those towards the end of last year from the economies listed with universities and research institutes and NGO networks and foundations in the private sector. And the emergency response, telehealth, digital forensic, wireless applications and deployments, high speed infrastructure and tools for telecentres.

And there are some more specific details here. The high speed backbone for instance is an implementation project of the Nepalese Research and Education Network in Nepal. The telecentre tools were there for the University of Moratuwa in Sri Lanka and the health, emergency and disaster information system was an NGO in the Philippines. There's a wireless network program in Sri Lanka and another wireless applications network in India as well.

And these projects haven't been approved, they are carrying on over the next year in 2009 and it does appear that the IDR C is going to continue with the other partners and possibly with a broader range of partners to fund and to carry out the administration project in the next year and beyond as well. So if you are interested in ISIF. Then we would very much appreciate your help in promoting the program in the next year and also either for yourselves if you're in a position to put in an application to actually receive a small grant for some relevant R and D, and if you are available of suitable actions, then you're helping in the program would be very much appreciated. So, thank you very much.

So, that is the last of the reports about the activities of the Secretariat for the past year. So, we have some time for questions and I'll hand over to the chair, thank you.

AKINORI MAEMURA: If you have any questions or comments for the Secretariat, then please speak.

JUDITH DUARIT VASQUEZ: Judith Vasquez of PHColo The member s are wondering - this isn't a question, more of a suggestion. If it makes sense to the leadership of APNIC to set up a satellite office that's closing with the countries, somewhere in south-east Asia, that is affordable and probably lower record costs than Australia, because we realize that we need so much more by way of research and knowledge, but particularly for our service provider, network engineers on IPv6.

And it makes sense also for us to actually send them to another country, because when the training comes to Manila, there's certain limits in terms of their attention span. And in other networks, they're doing their e-mail and basically, it may result actually in lower travel costs and so on and so forth. Thank you.

AKINORI MAEMURA: OK, any other questions or comments.

MIWA FUJII: APNIC Miwa. Judith, thank you very much for your comment. In regard to the IPv6 training, as I launched for the first day of the APNIC 27, the wiki pages are available and I tried to incorporate this page with the relevant, most up-to-date implementation regarding IPv6 as much as possible. And it is community concerned as well and so we will come in and update the site to share information.

Probably we will use APNIC, and try to use this site to the maximum way and the mailing list so to. So please try to visit this page and participate in this as well.

JUDITH DUARIT VASQUEZ: Basically the network engineers, particularly in South-East Asia they learnt that not from reading, but having the infrastructure, the best infrastructure to actually work on. And that's the reason why the trainees which I brought which actually involve the equipment are so much more meaningful than just anything on the written word. But I think we actually have a pseudo infrastructure where they can actually see the entire flow of the operations. Thank you.

CECIL GOLDSTIEN: I want to comment on the comments. Judith raised the question of conducting training in an area - where it is not the home base where people actually attend. That is something that we have been open to and we have been doing in some areas, particularly in the South Pacific where we've had sub-regional training in order to make it possible for participants on the smaller Islands to attend training. Now the idea of running the sub-regional training in south Asia is also possible. It is just a question of getting the feasibility for travel. And if this is what is of interest, it is something which would be perhaps easier for us to do, so we can conduct training in a centralized location and have participation from a number of countries around the area, we would be open to doing that. But the big question there is the support from the participants to actually travel there. And if we can see that that is viable, again we would do that. On the second point, in terms of the infrastructure, I do want to point out that we domain train a full network, some 16 rounds in the training.

That is a problem and we need to look at the bandwidth issues but it is there and not only there for us to conduct our training but for members from around the community to access and access and use the experiment. And there are timetables, please feel free to contact us if you do want to make it to that. Thank you.

AKINORI MAEMURA: OK, we will go to the next agenda which is regarding the EC election and Paul, please.

PAUL WILSON: OK, thank you. There will be plenty of time for questions during the rest of the day, but what we do need to move on with is the... to launch the EC election process by firstly talking about what is the procedure for the election and then as I mentioned before, there will be a brief opportunity for candidates to speak before we break for morning tea.

So as usual, as this time of year, we have an election for the EC. There are seven elective positions on the EC and this year we'll be replacing four of those positions. Next year it is three and the year after it is four. So the four positions that are up for re-election currently held by Kuo-Wei Wu, Kusumba Sridhar, Mao Wei and Ming Cheng Liang and replace the positions for a two-year term starting March 2009.

Now, we have the standard call for nominations which ended on February 13. So we have a list of nominees of course nominated by APNIC members. This is a formal membership vote so voting is open to APNIC members of course.

Now, we have as announced at the last meeting, we have implemented some stricter by-laws, compliance controls for authorizing contacts to vote in the elections, so there were quite extensive advices sent to the membership and to attendees of this meeting to clarify the voting procedure and entitlements. The voting is only able to be carried out by authorized contacts, as authorized on behalf of the APNIC, of each individual APNIC member.

Voting online via APNIC was opened on February 16 and closed on February 25. The proxy voting is possible in accordance with the by-laws and proxies had to be nominated before February 25.

Onsite voting is what we're doing now, and in order to receive the ballot papers for voting, you do need to be provided with the voting entitlement by the corporate contact for the membership who you represent. And as it says here, you can collect your ballot papers from the meeting registration desk until 2pm today which is of course when the voting closes. So if you have not collected your voting papers and you believe that you are entitled to voting papers, then please, see APNIC staff about that.

The entitlement to vote is according to the membership tier of your membership. From associate with one vote, all the way up to extra large members with 64 votes.

The EC ballot paper looks like this.

In the past, you may recall we've had a system where you need to fill in one ballot paper for every vote, which resulted in a large pile of ballot papers to be counted, up to 64 papers for an individual extra large member. That system has changed as of the last year, so the ballot papers are numbered with the number of votes that they correspond to and says - here shows number one in the background. So you should confirm that the ballot papers that you have represent the number of votes that you have according to your membership tier, and what you're asked to do as the instructions should clearly show is to put an "X" into four of the boxes of the names that you want to vote for.

So, as I mentioned, the ballot papers have a variable number of votes. For the very large and extra large numbers, rather than having ballot papers corresponding to 32 or 64 papers, you will have two or four x 16 papers. And if anyone wants to split their votes and not use all of the votes in the single 16-vote ballot paper, you can trade that paper in by seeing APNIC staff for a number of individual votes for the ballot papers and if you have any questions about that, please see the APNIC staff.

So, all of the ballot papers should be stamped on the back in a unique fashion to mark their validity. That is in a unique fashion for this election. We don't number the ballot papers or identify them in any other way. Mark up to four boxes. You don't a have to mark four, you can mark one, two, three or four of the boxes with an "X". The papers won't be counted if you mark any or mark more than four.

What we will need to do is to call for scrutineers to help count the ballots and we will do that when the voting closes. Sorry, before lunchtime. The voting will close at 2 p m before the end of lunch and that's when the scrutineers will count. So if would like to be a scrutineer, I will call for you to accept before lunch. We can only accept scrutineers for people who are not members of APNIC, but anyone else would be very welcome to volunteer and we would appreciate the help. The ballot box will be at the registration desk outside.

OK, now we have ten candidates and we have an opportunity for each of the ten to come and make a brief speech. So I will go through the nominee in order on the screen here and if the nominees are in the room, please come and speak, or if someone alternatively, if the nominee is here and they would like to say words on then behalf, that's possible. The first is Arvind'Mathur. Is Arvind here?

OK, David Woodgate. David is here and approaching. If others are ready to speak, please be ready.

DAVID WOODGATE: Morning, my name is David Woodgate. It has been my great pleasure at this meeting and in recent meetings to meet many of you and I hope to meet many of you at further meetings. But just to give you a little bit of background about myself.

I've been working in the Internet since 1990. During which time I've worked in Australia in CSIRO into the first version of the Australian Academic Research Network and then into Telstra where I've now been employed for 14 years. I've had extensive national and international experience in Internet backbone design, operations and peering. And ten years of people management. And I've also had management of major capital works programs, including national delivery programs for Internet and broadband core capacity throughout Australia. I've also had significant strategic planning experience. In fact, my general focus is enjoying the thinking about where things are going to be in five years time or so. And trying to plan out the economic factors, financial factors and working out how the company should be positioning itself to take advantage of those longer term views. But I also have a strong knowledge of Internet governance bodies and processes. During the 1990s, I contributed frequently to IETF working groups and was involved in 2280 and 2622 and my contributions about policy and specification language and as I'm sure people have been aware in the past few meetings, I've been quite active in the APNIC policy development process.

So the key question is - why am I nominating for the EC? I think you've all seen the graph before and it is indelibly imprinted upon most of your minds now. We are at the point with the line and from here, we start to run out of IPv4 addresses and we begin to manage the transition. Frankly the exhaustion of IPv4 and the move to IPv6 is the biggest fundamental change to the Internet, pretty since it spread or earned locally. And as we're moved into that space, there are going to be questions about how are the policies going to be handled as we move out and also questions about - are we going to be scrutinized more carefully. Is the APNIC Secretariat going to be scrutinized more carefully as we run towards the exhaustion.

But even beyond the exhaustion of IPv4, the biggest question in my mind is what is APNIC doing beyond that? Are we going to be pretty much business as usual from what we're doing now. I personally suspect not. I think there will be major changes to the way we think about the structure of APNIC and the functions and this is going to impact things like policy and just how large we want to do it, and it all comes down to what you members are looking for from APNIC. And very much a case of trying to bring that out and represent some changes to APNIC from the wishes of the membership.

So, why might you vote for me? Why would you want to vote for me? I remain passionate about the continuous success of the Internet. I will devote my working life to making what it is today, and I would like to ensure that it keeps growing and building and becoming an ever-increasing part of our day-to-day lives.

So as part of that, I am eager to assist APNIC into a new age of the Internet. I'm very much wanting to promote growth of IPv6. I'm hoping that IPv6 will actually build a stronger Internet for us all.

But I'm very concerned of the needs of all of the Internet community. Not just us as members, but also the industry and users. And I'd like to think that I bring to the EC some strong business management skills that I've developed, especially during my time over the past 14 years and I have a 20-year history with the Internet and I believe that I can understand many of the issues which are facing the Internet very well.

So, I'm very eager to hear the concerns of members and would always be willing to listen to what each and every one of you have to say. I cannot pretend that I understand the individual needs at this stage of every country, but I would very much want to learn what they r and I believe that I understand what the general needs of the Asia-Pacific region are overall.

So, I would be honoured to serve the Asia-Pacific community, if you were to vote me on to the EC and thank you very much for your time.


PAUL WILSON: Thank you, David. The next on the list, I don't exactly recall it. If anyone is ready to speak, then please come up and...

HYUN-JOON 'KWON: OK, hello everyone. I'm from NIDA. I'm very thankful for having this opportunity to speak in front of the community friends and today I'm standing here for the APNIC AC. As you know, we have today a wonderful nine candidates for the EC. I'm here to say, not only my experiences but also my attitude about the APNIC EC. I understand that becoming the E C means to have really big responsibility for the AP community. And also, I understand that there are a few special qualities. I have experience in working in many different interest groups, when I performed many different groups and communities with the NGOs and public sectors and private sectors.

Since 2001, I have been involved in the group of policies in many international affairs. For example, APNIC, and ICANN, etc. I have also served NRO 'EC from 2004 to 2008. I think this kind of experience will be helpful for the work as APNIC EC. Because the members are so diverse and they deal with so many issues. If I'm elected, it would be a great honour to serve the community using the humble talents and I will try to bring a unique addition and calm leadership to the APNIC EC. I will be a good listener rather than a speaker. I have one creed in my lifetime to not forget the original outcome of my goals.

Thank you very much again for this opportunity and your kind attention.


PAUL WILSON: Thank you. Running to the order of the list on the screen is Desi Valli? Available? OK, Imtiaz'Ahmed. OK, James Spenceley.

JAMES SPENCELEY: Thank you for the opportunity to speak to. My name is James Spenceley and I'm standing for a position on the EC as I believe I have some skills to benefit the APNIC and the Executive Council as we go into more difficult and troubled times ahead.

The EC is from my opinion, there to run the business of APNIC. It is specifically around running a business in the Internet and technology space. So you'll tell you a little bit about my history. In the mid-1990s, I founded my first ISP, a very small ISP which we grew to an almost - not quite so small ISP. From there, I worked for a company called Communico which employed the single largest IP network build in Australian history. We raised $350 million and I was involved in writing the business plan as well as the network design, as well as managing the company going forward. So one of the interesting things about my experience is that I can take a view from both the small member as well as a much larger corporation. More recently, I founded my own company which is Vocus. We sponsored APNIC 26 in Christchurch and as well as a Communico, we sponsored APNIC 10 I think in the year 2000 in Brisbane.

So one of the things I've always done is brought my company's contribution into the APNIC community. So I hope that that justifies to you my commitment to the role and to APNIC. On top of that, I've also been active in the Asia-Pacific policy. I've to see many of the communities trying to prepare for this and understanding the different issues in most of the regions and from the members in most of those countries. That's something that I've done in my personal time to really understand more the issues faced by the broader community, not just where my experience is in Australia. So you know, I'd like to encourage you to consider me for the position and again, thank you for the time.


PAUL WILSON: Thank you, James. Jian?

JIAN ZHANG: Morning everyone. As many of you may be already do know me or are familiar with my face since yesterday I was up on the stage the whole day. But please, allow me to introduce myself one more time.

I currently serve as director of international business development at CNNIC. I've got more than ten years experience in ICT and in networking, including working experience at Cisco Systems before joining CNNIC. One of my jobs at CNNIC is to consolidate the members of China allocation IP address, and a group helping members applying for IP addresses and AS numbers in China. I've been working with APNIC for the past two years since I joined CNNIC. I've served as a Policy SIG co-chair for nearly one term. I will be able to add sufficient experience with dealing with IP address assignment and policy-making and I'm very much enjoying working with people in the APNIC community. So I would like to try my best to serve for our region for future development. That's why I step up for EC position. I understand this is a very important moment with current Internet development between IPv4 and the next generation phase. It will be my pleasure to be involved in this transition. I would like to do my best to serve as EC, so I'm seeking all your support. Thank you.


PAUL WILSON: Thank you, Jian.

KUO-WEI WU: My name is Kuo-Wei Wu and as I bring up in the page. Can you see in my briefing back ground on the page and I just want to comment on a couple of things.

First of all, I have long time experience as an academic a Government sectors. And in the industry, secondly, my work experience, I started as an engineer and engineering manager and became a senior manager and CEO for an NGO. And also, for the industry, I actually served for the ISP at the time. And also, I work for the ICP as a young digital and also working for an equipment company. I was a system administrator. I joined APNIC in the early days in 1996 in Singapore. I attend all the meetings. And I see the changes that APNIC is in right now and I have a long history of working for APNIC members. Who is not only the NIRs, but I also do general members, as you know. We provide the best service for all members and here I need your support to continue my service for APNIC and for you. Thank you very much.


PAUL WILSON: I should point out that the meeting website has got the full list of nominees including the full details of their nomination. So that's what is showing on the screen at the moment. So if you would like to consult it, you can go to the website.

VINH NGO: Morning everyone. I'm sure you're familiar with my face now. I've been involved with APNIC for more than ten years. Similarly to Kuo-Wei'Wu, I've been involved since 1996. I will try to justify my reason why to go for the EC nomination.

I started my career as a researcher for the oil and gas exploration at Curtin University which is now the CSIRO and the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization. I did my research for about four years and presented my research paper in the International Association of Science and Technology For Development in Sri Lanka in 1993. The day after, I joined a private community in the Internet booming occurred. And I went to Australia as a technical manager managing the Commerce Australia backbone. The day after, I got promotion and joined TCRS and became the general manager and two years later, became the company director.

And so where I'm working now in CSC is a global company and I'll run the profile in a second. We have a team of 20 engineers. With a multibillion US dollars every year, ranging from the financial sector, mining sector, Government sector, and State Government. And working with Rio Tinto, BHP Billiton, Maybank and GE and AMP. I'm the CSC Senior Security Consultant for the company.

What are my professional affiliations? I graduated at Curtin University and currently studying my MBA Executive at RMIT. And I'm also a scout master. I've been as I mentioned, I've been with APNIC for more than ten years. For the last four years, I've been on the APNIC EC. And throughout that time, attended the Geneva Prep Com leading to the Tunis world summit and then attended the world summit in November 2005. And then after, the IGF.

So, what is CSC? CSC is a business solution outsourcing and technology. Some of you might know CSC, but it is the global leader in providing technology solutions and services through three primary lines. Business solution and services including finance, legal, global outsources and the North American Public Sector.

CSC headquarters is in Virginia, USA. It has approximately 92,000 global staff ranging from 110 countries across the globe. For up to January this year, the earning revenue was $17 billion US. You're more than welcome to visit the website on

And this year, CSC have been 50 years in the IP industry. It's one of the first companies floating on the US stock exchange. And I urge you to look at that one. And we are going in Australia, after 28 years by now, I'm standing here in front of you as a proud achiever. I worked my life throughout the entire 27 years with a guy who can't speak a word of English in a foreign country. I have nothing on you as a refugee. It demonstrates my ability to be able to fulfil my role and my goals and I have as I mentioned, for the past four years I've been on the EC board.

Personally and financially there is commitment and you have your own funding out of your own pocket. So again, I look for your vote and I thank you for the opportunity and I would also like to take this opportunity to thank the host country, the members, the staff and those who have done a brilliant job to hold this conference. And I thank you for that.


PAUL WILSON: Thank you. I think that's the last of the candidates who seem to be in the room. Just a final call, is there anyone else who is running in the election or wishes to speak for someone running in this election? If not, I think we're finished then with the election procedures. There will be another opportunity reminder to vote before the lunch break but I would stress again that you will need to vote by the end of the lunch break in order to have your vote counted.

So at the end of the next session, I'll call for the volunteers and the scrutineers, but I think we have a couple of announcements before we finish this morning's session.

SRINIVAS CHENDI: Thank you, just a reminder again. The dinner tonight is the Harbour View Restaurant. APNIC will provide the transport from the hotel venue to back. You can register your interest, if you would like to attend at the registration desk. Once again, the cost is US $30 or AUD $45 or 1,300 peso. Also, there is a learning demon at the Helpdesk if you're interested in the e Learning and would like to host E Learning in your economy. We go for the tea break now and we will resume at

AKINORI MAEMURA: Thank you very much and we're going to go to tea break and please be back here at 11:15 am. Quarter past 11. Thank you very much.

(End of session)

Friday 1115-1300

AKINORI MAEMURA: We're resuming the session very soon and I'm almost ready for my own report. OK, thank you very much for getting back to the meeting. The second session in the morning consists of a report from the EC, EC Treasurer NRO and other RIRs and beginning with my own which is the APNIC Executive Council Report. Here we go.

APNIC EC members in 2008. Please, EC members in this room, stand up, show your face to the membership.

OK, my name is Akinori Maemura from Japan, your chair in the EC, and Che-Hoo'Cheng and Kuo-Wei'Wu and Mao Wei. There are in China. And we have also - they are not in this room but Ming-Cheng Liang and Kusumba Sridhar from India. And we have seven elected members. The EC members who were elected by the APNIC membership and also we have one other member of the Executive Council who is Paul Wilson as CEO and director general of APNIC.

Functions of the APNIC EC. That's correct. Interim decisions between member meetings, oversight of the activities of APNIC. To consider broad Internet policy issues for APNIC's strategic direction and to establish the basis of the budget for membership approval. To set membership dues. And to endorse the policy consensus toward implementation.

EC meetings. We have five meetings since APNIC 26 in Christchurch. And the meeting minutes are published and are available for your reference at the APNIC website. Here you can find the minutes.

2008, the financial status is to be provided by the Treasurer just after my report. 2008 concluded with a very modest operating surplus before taxes and adjustments. Total budget was AUD $10.6 million. Around AUD$10 million. And we had an extraordinary write-down in the value of the investments resulted in an overall small operating deaf sit. It is slightly negative. The 2009 budget, the EC has already adopted a balanced budget for the year 2009 which is overall annual budget of AUD $12 million. And there will be no changes in the membership fee for the year 2009.

Fee study - as reported by the Treasurer, and we did the study with the KPMG, and in ensuring the financial stability, ensuring the fairness across the members and ordinary members and NIRs, and studied the impact and anticipated environmental changes such as NIR formation, the formation of the new NIRs. IPv4 address allocation completion, and IPv6-only allocation role by the NIC and the Registry roles.

Report highlights, a strong need to undertake changes to the fee structure for APNIC in the coming years. The EC anticipates some changes in the APNIC fee from 2010 in response to the report. The EC will advise the members of the 2010 member fee schedule in April of this year, and such studies are already reported in the EC website and you can find our report there.

Policy endorsement: That's one of our commitments and the EC endorsed the policies of the prop-055 and global policy for the remaining IPv4 address space. And this is not in the implementation by APNIC, but just handed over to the ICANN for the ICANN Board certification.

Prop-062, use of the final /8. Prop-064, change to assignment policy for the AS numbers and prop-066, which is ensuring efficient use of historical IPv4 resources. It's already implemented and document it's are revised by this kind of endorsement.

NRO Number Council. The APNIC member and broader community elects the two NRO Number Council members and there is one other member which is to be appointed by the EC. The EC appoints Tomohiro Fujisaki from Japan NTT so serve on the NRO Member Council as our appointee for the year 2009.

APNIC survey - the EC has once more commissioned John Earls of KPMG to conduct the 2008 membership and the stakeholder survey. This survey is an important part of the activity planning process for the APNIC and to define service priorities.

The EC will publish a response to the survey setting the service objectives and priorities for APNIC for the coming two years.

And I would like to give a warm thank you for the EC members who are right now expiring their term. There's four members whose term has just ended today. There's four members, Kuo-Wei Wu, Ming-Cheng'Liang, Kusumba Sridhar and Mao 'Wei. Kuo-Wei 'Wu is running for the election, but the other three members are now just leaving from the EC and thank you very much for all of the effort in the EC for the other three members.

Thank you very much again. Again the EC member minutes and other information about the EC is published at www.apnic.ant/ec.

I would like to invite Mr Kuo-Wei'Wu to deliver the treasury script.

KUO-WEI WU: Basically, I wanted to say the first of the annual financial report of 2008 and then the report on the 2009 and then I will also be talking about the fee structure and also the changes.

First of all, the financial status. As you already know, we're already moving all of our financial reports into Australian dollars and we completed the audit by the annual accounts and we have operating loss for last year is AUD151,751. The financial crisis for this year, as you know, we have some investment value, is the reason for the loss and we had a write-down of AUD334,821.

For the membership as December 31, 2008, we have 1,855. We had net growth of 271 members. And the conservative approach of the financial activities in this year with the financial markets, you know it's really unstable so we are taking a very conservative way to handle that.

And this is the income statement, and actually I believe our financial manager has some printouts if you want to see and you can get it at the desk and also I think they are on the website and you can download it.

And basically, the actual expense of the 2008, we have around AUD10,773,614.

And with the revenue, we have around AUD10,769,285 and it has just reached our budget.

If you look at this, you can see actually, except the loss in the 2007, with the profit we count the loss and it is an AUD151,751 loss for 2008.

And the balance sheet, you can see over here, so that is here to compare with 2007 and 2008. We had about 6% for the assets and the total liability and equity is about a 6% increase.

And in the comparison of annual revenues and expenses, the green colour is revenue and the red colour is expense. And you can see there for 2003, the APNIC financial year is running very tight. As you know, we talk about the financial, we have had several meetings talking about the financial status of APNIC. We are running in the margins. Maybe a little bit above it but as the EC and the DG mentioned, we are asking for a fee structure studying for ourselves.

So this is for the 2008 financial report. Any questions?

OK, we'll move to the 2009 for the budget.

OK, I will continue talking about the APNIC budget for 2009.

First of all, we are projected expenses, looking for total expenditure of about AUD $12,086,125. And basically, we are looking for the surplus of AUD27,647 and hopefully the financial status is getting smaller and stabilised and the budget, basically first of all we want to maintain an ending cash reserve approximately equal to the projected annual expenses budget. And the end of 2009, we have cash holdings are estimated at 76% of 2010 expenditure forecast and ensure high level of financial governance and control in all APNIC activities, as we usually do every year. And maintain a strong focus on the risk management and compliance. And so, this is basically for the 2009 budget.

Forecast. So, are there any questions? Or I can move on for the fee structures?

Next one, I will talk about the APNIC Executive Council on the fee structure study report and actually, I think the chair Maemura-San and Paul Wilson mentioned about this, and also, I remembered that we put in the website under the website and you can it is under the EC and you can download the report.

And the APNIC EC fee study is started for the year 2008. It started in 2008. The APNIC status is running from 2003 in the margins. Because of strong, it was because of strong US dollars but now it's because of the financial crisis. So we are going to make an independent study on the APNIC fee structure and make sure the next financial status is going to stabilise and continue to do the best services for our members. Key issues are several things. First of all, financial stability of the APNIC office and maintaining reserves. In the past several years, we are keeping fairness across members and NIRs and hopefully to try to find really a balance point between the NIR member and also our regular APNIC members to acquire from the IP allocations.

And as we know, there are several possibilities NIRs are going to form. If more and more NIRs form, our fee structure and financial situation will have an impact. So the next one is because of IP address allocations. Soon we will complete the IP address allocations and then we need to look at what is the financial stability for APNIC and also to make a good service to our member.

The next one is IPv6-only allocation, so in the own fee structure, we emphasize on v4 allocation but also we now need to think about members who require only the IPv6 address.

And the last thing of course is evolving NIC and registry roles, you know because it is a changing status.

And the key principles to make sure of the financial sustainability of the operations and we try to make sure that there is consistency and fairness and optimise the points between the regular members and the NIR and of course, we want to make this whole thing in transparency and people can see the fee structure openly and of course have maximum flexibility because we need to keep the situation moving and have the opportunity to adjust to make sure of our financial stabilities. And of course, based on the financial crisis and based on the IPv4 depletions and we need to manage some of the risks and also the assessment.

And the fee study outcome, report highlights a strong need to undertake changes to the fee structure for APNIC in the coming years. Hopefully we can make the change for 2010 for the next year. And the EC anticipates some changes to APNIC in the fees from 2010 in response to this report and so, every month the EC in the hotel conference meeting, we're also monitoring in this report and the discussion in the detail. And the EC will advise of changes to the member fee structured by April this year and make an announcement.

The fee study recommendations, I think it is six items. The first one is APNIC is to adopt a continuous fee model with a premium for NIRs. So we are not going to the top and we are continuing to the fee models. Usually we start at a /8 and so going above the /8, it will be a continuous fee structure. The EC endorses this recommendation and we need to look at the financial status every year.

The level of its cash reserve - usually we try to maintain I think it is 12 months to 18 months, but because of the situation in 2003, we have a big margin so we need to look and what it takes for the APNIC office to run stable and have enough cash funding to continue to do their services.

The number four, discounted membership fees to be provided to the least developed countries. This is to try to do, to help in developing countries and have some kind of discount so to respond I think for the meeting yesterday, people come in within the IPv4 depletion, how it can help in the least developing countries and we will try to think about this and put it into our fee structure study too.

And also, we tried to adopt a new schedule, just to mention hopefully by January 2010. And APNIC EC to commence study of IPv6-only environment to allow sufficient time for the transition to the new IPv6 fee structure in 2012.

So this is my summary report and if you want to see the fee structure summary and the tax form in more detail in this report, you can take a look on the worldwide web.

MASATO YAMANISHI: I have a comment about the fee structure. I basically see in the issue, why we need to change the fee structure. However, we need to in fact - of course we need to perfect the budget each year so everybody has the same situation. So the concrete formula, the concrete formula will be published as soon as possible.

Also, you said we need to change, we need to review the fee structure in each year, so I think it is also very important to publish updates as soon as possible.

KUO-WEI WU: Sure, I fullly agree with your point and I think we actually would be working on this schedule as soon as possible and so I think among us, we have some discussions. Hopefully we can have a meeting some time in April you know and maybe our chair can - we can try to have one as early as possible to allow the people to take a look at the new fee structure too. Yes, I fully agree.

AKINORI MAEMURA: Any more questions or comments?

KUO-WEI WU: Thank you very much.

AKINORI MAEMURA: And next on the agenda.

GAURAB RAJ UPADHAYAl: Is this the right time to discuss about the fees or are we going to come back to it again? The fee structure, are we going to discuss it again here during the day? Or no?

AKINORI MAEMURA: I think you can raise your comments.

GAURAB RAJ UPADHAYAl: OK, I was actually reading the KPMG for the fee structure and it clearly seems to point out that the addition of three new NIRs is going to be incremental to the financial source for APNIC and is the EC going to give us any idea of the subset before and what is there. As I read the report, the any new NIR is detrimental to APNIC's situation. And the way I look at it, literally means that currently, ISPs in non-NIR countries are subsidising APNIC operations more or less and coming from Nepal we suffer aren't subsidising operations.

When I finish reading the entire report, it is pretty massive and I urge all the APNIC members to read it on the website. And you'll find the report right there. But that a question that I would like to raise.

KUO-WEI WU: Thank you very much.

AKINORI MAEMURA: Thank you. If not, we will go to the next session to be presented by Paul Wilson.

PAUL WILSON: Thank you, John. Thank you, Akinori. So, this is the report of the APNIC member and stakeholder survey hell at the end of last year. The survey was launched late last year, as it is now every two years and the results are being released this week. So this survey is commissioned by the APNIC Executive Council on behalf of the members. It is always conducted independently from the APNIC Secretariat. So KPMG as an independent body conducts the survey and importantly maintains the confidentiality of all respondents. They write a detailed report and the identity of the respondents is protected throughout the entire process. It has involved, as it has in the past, input sessions, face-to-face input sessions in which the survey instrument as they call it is developed and tested, before in this case, online surveys were launched.

And we had dramatically increased participates from a much wider group this time on account of the online survey instrument that was used. So this is the fifth survey of members and stakeholders and the major input into APNIC's planning process for the next couple of years.

And as I've mentioned, the number of respondents this time was dramatically higher, nearly or around about double the rate of responses last time so there were a few columns in the chart that show the number of responses in the line that is climbing and shows the number of different economies represented. So we're getting a much higher rate of participation in the surveys and that is giving us a much higher value response every time we run the surveys.

APNIC is a membership-based organization. We're a service-based organization. We operate in the mutual interest of all of our members, in particular, and so this survey is a very good example and a very good instrument for us to carry out that mission as well as possible. And the survey also as always includes non-member stakeholders and so we are not interested just in the responses from those who are formally members of APNIC, but from anyone in fact who regards themselves as a stakeholder in our activities.

The survey in this case had three sections. The first one was the usual assessment of APNIC activities. A set of questions there with a rating from 1-10 indicating a level of satisfaction with a whole range of different aspects for APNIC operations.

The second section is about allocation resources where resources are competing for different priorities in three different areas, services, communications and technical were allocated a number of points indicating their priority.

And the third section of a new one which I've already reported on earlier this week and that was the survey on IPv6 readiness and I had various factual questions, propositions and again a rating of the extended agreement from 1-10.

So the results from our members in section one - you'll see by looking at the survey report which are online now that we have a report from KPMG which distinguishes from stakeholder responses. In this report, I'm focusing primarily on the member responses. This is the APNIC member meeting. You'll find that in some cases, stat holder responses are slightly different. Mostly there's a close correspondence, but in most case, there will be differences. So what we look at in this slide here is the top five responses in terms of member satisfaction, so these are questions which I'll summarize here now.

At the top of the list, number one is - very strongly that APNIC should be involved in the activities and events of operator groups, ISP associations, Government and educational bodies. So that relates to the external outreach liaison outreach and supported strongly by the fifth in this list which is specifically about high level representation liaison with Government.

And being in the top five, to give us a strong ongoing encouragement requirement to keep up the increase and increase the liaison activities which are around activities which I mentioned earlier, such as Internet governance in particular, but also I think in the case of operator groups, ISP associations and so on were also involved particularly with the training as an educational and informational activities as well.

The other three on the list relate specifically to APNIC services. The rating of APNIC DNS services and Whois services and the quality, usability and reliability are highly related. This is reassuring in some senses, although we have - as Byron reported for the technical area earlier, we have some strong activities at the moment on increasing reliability. Further increasing reliability of the services through the numbered systems and the network architecture and measures as well.

Number four on the list, with a high rating of satisfaction as well is the proposition that the services provided by APNIC are satisfactory.

Now, we also look of course at the other end of the list, the low five in terms of satisfaction. And we find that there are a few communications related here that seems to require some work. But I will also mention that the rating for the lowest of the list was still nearly 7 out of 10, so we look at the lower end of the list, but I don't think that you could really - you could see that there is not a high level of dissatisfaction in this area, but communications and the targeting or the levelling of APNIC tutorials and workshops.

The third one is important I think, particularly after yesterday's discussion of the policy development process and whether it is an effective way of upholding resource management in the region. The policy of the process is of course subject to the policy of the development process, so if there is - it is certainly something that we can go on tailoring, tuning or even modifying more dramatically if there is a consensus in the region to do that.

Processing requirements to obtain are straight forward and the operation of MyAPNIC. And on MyAPNIC as Byron and George reported, these are topics which are... this is an area of very considerable activity just in the recent months as well.

Section two is about resource allocations and this is the highest - the set of categories with the highest. The very top of that list is in the technical area - research and development activities and specifically for example, network monitoring and measure routeability testing. This is an area where APNIC had some activity but not a huge amount of resource allocation. I think we're being asked here to keep that up and specifically to allocate fairly substantial resources to it. As the budget showed, we don't have a huge amount of surplus to allocate to new activities but this is a matter of prioritization.

Second on the list of resource allocations is to support network engineering education in the Asia-Pacific region. This is something that's appeared on our surveys every time, and we do, as we heard in the reports, undertake a fair amount of network engineering education. Our support and participation is another way of participating. Supporting IPv6 deployment was third on the list, more on expanding training and IPv6 communications.

Section three reported on this at some length in the IPv6 plenary earlier in the week and I suppose that many of you were there. Just to summarize, we had four questions related to the plans for deployment or actual deployment by IPv6, and the responses to each of the four questions was similar, between 37% and 40% of people who said they were either immediately ready for deployment or having deploy IPv6 or they have a formal plan or resources allocated for IPv6 deployment. So that's 40% of a fairly substantial number of respondents from around the region.

The other factual questions here relate to whether or not organizations have actually received addresses, again nearly 40%. But interestingly, the number of responses or respondents who said that they have the knowledge and expertise required to move to IPv6 is 54%, a little more than have. So that's indicating the 40% who have moved or are planning to move the reasonable amount of respondents who record themselves to have the knowledge or expertise but chose not to do it yet. They are people who would start making plans, I would suggest, quite soon. But there's a substantial number who are saying that they do not have the knowledge and expertise, and also that IPv6 training is still not readily available.

And in terms of proposition responses as to what APNIC should be doing, 8.44 out of ten was the level of agreement with proposition that APNIC should have a bigger role in promoting IPv6, and that's a very strong encouragement to us to keep up our own efforts through the IPv6 program and related activities. And 7.32 was the rating with a fairly large deviation for the prospect that Government should require IPv6 compliance within entities under their control. And also, there was another related question in the earlier part of the survey which stated strongly that the Government support for IPv6 was important.

As for resource allocations, again IPv6 promotion, IPv6 infrastructure services. What was referred to in the survey is expert consultancy or advisory services and I think we would see that as the sort of information provided through the IPv6 wiki which is an environment which can be developed. And again, measuring research and reporting.

So, in the IPv6 area, the conclusions here are that we should be focusing on IPv6 information and support, training and also liaison with Government organizations.

So, moving forward, as usual, the survey has come out and the report has been received just in time for this meeting. The survey findings have been published, both in KPMG with indices which give you a huge amount of analysis.

The survey, having been commissioned by the APNIC EC needs a response from the APNIC EC, so there will be a review of the survey findings by the EC. They haven't had the chance to do that yet but there will be the review and the response from the EC along with internally for the Secretariat applying for the changes and as you've seen from the reporting this morning, we do tend to phrase reports these days very much in terms of what we've been asked to do through the member surveys.

And that's it from me on the member survey.

AKINORI MAEMURA: OK, we're going to head to the NRO report.

PAUL WILSON: I'll stay right here because this report has been prepared by Adiel who is from AfriNIC who is the chair of the NRO EC. Secretary in the last year, but Adiel was not able to be here at this meeting so he's asked me to present the NRO report.

So the NRO is the Number Resource Organization. It is the vehicle through which the RIRs are undertaking the mutual co-operative and representative activities. Formed for the purposes of broadly protecting the unallocated number resource pool. Promoting and protecting the bottom-up policy processes common to all RIRs and acting as a focal point for the Internet community input into the system. And it was established initially in order to fulfil the requirements of the supporting organization between the ICANN framework way back in 2004.

The NRO in 2009 in fact, the office holders of the NRO are the chair, Adiel who as I said was unfortunately not able to be here. The Secretary is Axel who was here but has left this morning. The Treasurer Raul from LACNIC.

The NRO has some internal structures, being the co-ordination groups, the engineering co-ordination group and the Communications Co-ordinating Group who are Andre and Paul from RIPE NCC.

One of the things that the NRO does is to share a range of expenses that are incurred by the RIRs through certain mutual activities, such is the contribution we make to ICANN on an annual basis and we calculate the RIR shares according to a weighted formula of revenue and related to resource allocations as well and the percentages of our respective contributions are provided there. So APNIC is responsible in the last year for 26.5% of NRO common expenses.

Now the major one of those expenses is the contribution to ICANN which is expected to be $823,000 US in 2009.

So still with ICANN, the ICANN meetings are quite Major events and there's an ICANN meeting coming up in Mexico City next week and there are several activities planned. One is an extensive consultation with the Government Advisory Committee next Tuesday, it is an hour-long meeting which is barely substantial on the GAC calendar. We also provide regular updates during the public forum. There is a new joint meeting for the supporting organization and advisory committees and we'll be participating in that and also we do have a regular review with ICANN with the regular NRO contribution to ICANN.

There is another meeting coming up this year which will be in Sydney in June of 2009 and we expect to be back at the GAC and I think the following meeting next year is also in this region. It will be in Korea as I understand it.

Now the Internet governance forums as I mentioned before. This is something of great interest to the NROs and they're a great participation of the IGF. There was a boost at the IGF meeting in Hyderabad run by RIR staff and there was a lot of participation in the workshops within the IGF on IPv4 exhaustion, and transition to IPv6 and on some other issues like a workshop that APNIC hosted which is the issues, it was about issues related to ISP in developing countries and there was a session sponsors by Autonomica.

The next meeting of the IGF will be late this year in Sharm El 'Sheikh in Egypt and the consultations for the meetings are already happening and the first one took place, has taken place in February just this week in Geneva.

The NRO is quite heavily involved in consultations as well in fact. Both Raul Echeberria and the head of AfriNIC have been parts of the multi-stakeholder advisory group of the IGF. And that's quite a significant and influential selection being made in that case. That group is renewed every year and it is not clear who will be formally on the group but they've been participating for the last couple of years. Raul too was on the working group on Internet Governance which was also part of the WSIS process prior to IGF.

There will be another consultation neat meeting in Geneva in May 2009 as part of the annual process for IGF.

So ongoing activities in the - the slides say 2008. This is a 2009 report. Ongoing activities include representation in the ICANN and IGF meetings. We have ongoing engineering co-ordination on IPv6 support by the RIRs and you heard earlier that APNIC has come a long way this year in providing full access to awful the service and providing APNIC. We have planning for the ongoing management of delegation plan and planning for DNSSEC. And the resource certification co-ordination. On the address issues related to IPv4 exhaustion in particular, the joint RIR boards put together that policy proposal, the global policy proposal which was at the APNIC meeting yesterday and it was approved yesterday. And so, that is the first of the RIRs, the first of the RIRs to have considered the policy. If it is then successful, in all of the other RIR regions, through the ASO Global Policy Process to become a global policy under ICANN.

And that's it from the NRO from myself acting in the place of Adiel. And do we have any questions?

AKINORI MAEMURA: Any questions or comments? And now I'm inviting Barbara 'Roseman to give the IANA report.

BARBARA ROSEMAN: Hi, I'm Barbara Roseman, the general manager of IANA. Leo Vegoda who is the numbers liaison is the person who prepared this report for me. So I may stumble over a couple of things that he's included.

So, I'll just go over a few things that we've been working on and an update on IPv4, on the number of /8 allocations still available. The global policy proposal for the remaining IPv4 space, the status of that in ICANN. And then some IETF work that we've been doing and a very brief notice about DNSSEC.

There's 32 /8s that were left in the IANA free pool. Seven have been allocated since the last APNIC meeting. And as you know, five of the 32 are reserved for the final allocation.

The global policy proposal was sent to the ICANN board on February 4. The public comment period is open until February 26, which is really - you still have time today, because that would be close of business. And then the decision is likely to take place at March 6 which is the public meeting in Mexico.

For some of the IETF working, work that we've been doing, Michelle and Leo 'Vegoda have been participating in writing some RFCs. On the rfc 3171 bis on guidelines for IPv4 multicast assignments is WG last call. And rfc 3330 bis.

There is a new ID for a new IPv4 registry. This is co-authored with Geoff and has been submitted to create a special registries for assignments within 19 The same concept as IANA IPv6 special purpose address registry, and if you want to look at that example, the URL is there.

You've asked us to do work towards signing the DNS root and we have done that. We have proposed a mechanism. Our proposal was submitted to the Department of Commerce along with the proposal from VeriSign from doing It and Commerce opened up a notice of intent to look into this issue and took comments on it. Our analysis of the comments were that the majority of the respondents were enthusiastic about getting it assigned as soon as possible. Most of them did not say that they would prefer it but most said that they would find one or more of the proposed plans problematic.

I would encourage you to go and look at the comments received and see if any of them match your views on it. If they don't, I think that you will find all of the other opportunities discussed on this. That's it. Any questions?

AKINORI MAEMURA: Questions or comments? Thank you very much Barbara.


AKINORI MAEMURA: OK, next we will have the reports from the other RIRs beginning with AfriNIC and unfortunately, we don't have any people from AfriNIC and Paul Wilson is going to do the records from AfriNIC.

PAUL WILSON: It's me again still pretending to be Adiel! So this is the AfriNIC update, a brief presentation which he sent through this week.

AfriNIC at a glance in 2009. They have an operating budge it this year of $1.8 million. They have a head count of 11 but a lot of recruitment planning so that they are looking to have 18 by the end of this year.

494 members billed in January 2009. They have two policies proposed and under current discussion. Here are some members showing the top left of the membership growth by a quarter, nice linear growth happening there. On the right-hand side, the distribution of the members by size. The X-axis there seems to have been reversed so it is increasing, decreasing.

The IPv6 allocation growth has been going up in a fairly steady fashion as well. Whereas total IPv4 allocation for assignments seem to be accelerating very dramatically just in the last year or so. AfriNIC has an awfully big region and an awfully big training challenge ahead of them, so they've been conducting training as an important part of their activities since 2005 and I know they've been doing that with all sorts of support from ISOC similar bodies, but they've been around the continent fairly extensively and have trained in many different countries including with a focus on IPv6. And they're planning 15 training sessions for 2009. Currently like, as reported for APNIC and in fact talking of improving training talks for online training in virtual labs and so on. The goal being to conduct training in the entire continent by the end of next year.

The policies too that I mentioned that are proposed are under discussion. The first is known as a policy for 4200901 which is the IPv4 soft landing policy and they have another policy, 4200901 which is IPv6 allocations to non-profit networks.

They have a lot of co-operation with other around the world. AFTLD, and after AFNOD. AFTLD is an administrator providing administrative and financial support. They are working with AFNOG as well particularly with training. AfriNIC also has launched a root server copying project and root project in Africa with the support of ISOC and a few root operators and have been training in the first session for ISPs in the last year. And they've also set up a virtual lab in Mauritius by which to provide training.

They had a meeting in Mauritius last year. Unfortunately, they've had to be relocated to Mauritius at the last moment due to some changes in the original host, but they did still have 95 participants in the training workshops and meeting sessions. They have had an NRO 'NC election and so the three members are listed here. Vincent,'Paulos and Hytham. They've had elections in the PDP-MG and elections of the ASO-AC member, the new member is Jean Robert Hountomey re-elected for three years.

And the next meeting is in Cairo. And as said here, everyone is warmly invited, that will be another back to back meeting with AFNOG-10. I'm sure if anyone would like to go and attend that meeting, they're very welcome. That's it from Adiel. Thank you very much.


AKINORI MAEMURA: Next is Einar 'Bohlin.

EINAR BOHLIN: I'm a policy analyst at ARIN. Normally you see Ray Plzak up here giving the report. Ray resigned as CEO in ARIN last year and he's a consultant for us this year. The ARIN board is conducting interviews and hopes to fill that position for CEO and President by the end of next month. Ray gave over eight years of excellent service to ARIN and the RIR community and we're all grateful for the work that he did for us.


Right, the registration services agreement. This is an agreement between ARIN and its customers that has to be signed in order for customers to get number resources. It was updated and a significant change was that Section 3 was made more explicit. That if an organization commits fraud, that the agreement can be terminated. Essentially what this means is that if organizations lie to us about their number resource means, then ARIN can and will pursue getting that address space back. The regular ASes, registration, these are agreements that organizations can optionally and voluntarily see to bring the number resources into an agreement and this was popular last year with over 500 organizations requesting to do that.

Engineering has been really active lately. We rolled out a new website this month. We're moving towards a web-based secure log-in mechanism for services. We're going away from e-mail services. We're engineering looking at improving the IRR system. ARIN has two different databases, one for registration and one for the IRR and looking to link the two databases, we're looking to link them.

We're looking to improve or replace Whois and RWhois and we're looking towards a basses for registration basis for securing routing infrastructure. And the URL there for more a nigs there.

We have a new policy development process as of January this year and this, I'm really excited about. We're using it right now and it is implement it specifically says that the goal is clear, technically sound and useful policy. And in order for that to happen, the process empowered the advisory council as a development body. The advisory council is a 15-member, 15-person group and elected by the membership and previously, their primary mission was to evaluate consensus, but not only did they do that now, but they actually write proposal text.

Anyone can submit a suggestion to change policy. The suggestions come in and the advisory council turns that into the proposals. And to balance that initial power that the advisory council is given, the petition process was expanded. So if anyone is dissatisfied with something the advisory council has done, they can attempt to move that proposal forward in the process.

We have policies that have been adopted. The first two here haven't been implemented yet. Transfers or the second one there which holds a reserve of IPv4 space at the end for the purpose of putting IPv6 networks on the Internet. We implemented the third one there for customers.

We have policy proposals under discussion. I'll go through them quickly. The first is to make it a more accurate database. And the second one would make community networks able to get IPv6 space more easily.

The third one would make ARIN be a broker for transfers. The fourth one would set '/20 as a limit when the amount of v4 space that ARIN has is less than a /9. And of course we have the global proposal and something called the transfer appeals and this has to do with an end-user who is part of a network being considered for transfer. They can attempt to appeal that transfer.

We did a lot of outreach last year and we're continuing that with something like 15 industry events and the familiar topics and we set up a Government Working Group to encourage governments in our region to participate in ARIN.

We had a meeting in Barbados a couple of weeks ago. We talked about IPv6 and we presented and discussed all the propose ands which are currently active and the feedback from this meeting is being used by the Advisory Council right now to help them write the text for the proposals of what will come to our meeting in a couple of months.

We have a fellowship program that we have initiated. We're going to pay for three people to attend our meetings this year.

And our upcoming meeting is in San Antonio in Texas, if you can't participate in real life, you can participate remotely and in the fall, we have another one in Dearborn in Detroit in Michigan and that will be in conjunction with NANOG. Thank you.



ROQUE GAGLIANO: Thank you. My name is Roque Gagliano and I work at the engineering department in LACNIC and this is going to be the LACNIC update. LACNIC is the regional registry for Latin America and part of Caribbean. So I'm going to start the report with some numbers. First of all, the member count. There is pretty substantial growth in the year 2008 particularly in the small members and we are reaching the thousand mark, so hopefully the next time you see this report, it will be in the four digits.

Paul mentioned yesterday that last year, we allocated less addresses than the year 2007, so you can see that before in 2007, we allocated around one /8 a year and last year was around 0.8. And I want to try to explain this a little bit and what we see in light blue is the allocation to extra large members. What we have seen is we actually deceased allocations to the extra large members and the others are still growing. So what we think happened is that actually a couple of our extra large members did not come back for addresses last year and we know that they're ready for this year. So we're certain in 2009 there will be a growth.

If we look at IPv6 allocation, there's a number of - we're doing a lot of outreach activities and we can see the growth with a number of total addresses.

We are going to continue the outreach because we can see that even though the allocation is growing rapidly, we don't see that in the number of announcements in the global routing table, so we're following that and trying to improve our training.

ASNs around 100 a year. Approximately. So we go to the engineering news. The first thing is that we are deploying a new registration system. That's not going to change in the webpage, just changing the registration software, particularly implementing the business for authentication and that is going to be important for identification. We are finishing the EPP interface and EPP will allow an interface with our members and the NIRs. And we believe it will be an great tool for improving services. And we are now finishing our deployment in Sao 'Paulo and having our own ASN and data centre.

This is what the new system looks like so it is about to be launched. So the good thing is that what we tried to do is not to get into several certificates per'user. So you'll be able to have access to all of the different asks that you use, so the look is pretty much the same but we're adding a lot of functionalities to the system.

Policy news - one of the biggest - last year, there was a lot of changes. We changed our policy development process and we introduced two big news. First of all, we have a co-chair. Before that, we only had one chair in the policy forum and there's an interim new co-chair that was selected by the LACNIC Board who is Eldert 'Louisa and that's also very interesting and exciting for us because it is the first non-Spanish, non-Portuguese speaking co-chair in our community.

We delivered the new expedite process which means that... LACNIC only have one million a year. That may take a long time for policies to be discussed over and over, so we have the process to actually be able to improve policy without actually having to be present in a LACNIC meeting.

We implement what's called the Phase 2 of the 32-bit ASN policy. That means that we're - the Whois database and the registration software... sorry, this is another thing. The Phase 2 was that by default, we are allocating 32-bit ASNs but we go back to the people and we say, are you sure of what you're asking? Because we realize that some people have some problems with understanding exactly what is going on. And the other thing we did was we implemented AS plain notation in all of the registration software and the Whois database.

We got five regional policies being discussed and one global policy, but we are in the internal process with some four new policies so there will be a lot of activity in the next public policy forum.

We have something interesting in that right now we're doing something called a press journalist contest about Internet governance. So basically, we have a contest for journalists to present their projects and ideas. And there's going to be a first prize of $2,000 and a free trip to a LACNIC meeting. So they get the money and come to the LACNIC meeting and report about what we do, so I think that's a very interesting idea.

We have the board of director elections and Oscar Messano and Oscar Robles-Garay were re-elected. And the last IPv6 training activities in Haiti, Cuba, Trinidad and Tobago, Costa Rica and Dominican Republic. And FRIDA, will be similar to the IC region and we conducted and finished the second round for 2008. Eight projects were selected for the region. They are research and development project and we secured the funding for a new round of the first round for 2009.

So again, what we're going to be doing In the next year, this is, we're going to continue with the IPv6 activities and co-co-operation with the European Union project. We had planned to do an IXP workshop inside CITEL. CITEL is the regulatory, get together meeting with the American States and we're going to do the workshop to enlighten a bit what is peering, how interconnection works with the IP world. We're going to have a meeting in the Caribbean region meeting in June, it has not been announced yet. And continue participation in the IGF.

We're going to have a consultation meeting, this is a meeting that LACNIC hosts but it's open to the open communities, not for LACNIC members but for the open community which means Government organizations and societies and cyber security and also the preparation for the future IGF. We normally have it two months before the IGF so that the region can have some internal discussion before going to the IGF.

In the engineering part, the biggest thing is the RPKI project and the hiring of some people for that. And also we are looking in the security project that has to do with helping in the establishment of security response teams throughout the region.

Finally, we would like to kindly invite you all to join us in the annual meeting. Remember LACNIC just have one meeting. This is your only time to come to our region. We're going to be in Panama City in the last week of May from the 24th to the 29th of May. And hopefully we'll see you there. Thank you.


AKINORI MAEMURA: And for the RIPE NCC, it was planned to be by Axel 'Plawik, but he's already left so Mark Dranse.

MARK DRANSE: Thank you, I'm the information manager from the RIPE NCC with the update from Amsterdam. As you can see, the climate a little bit different to what we have here.

Last meeting we had was RIPE 57 held in Dubai in October last year. Good attendance, we had 320 attendees from 50 different countries, including lots of people from the Middle East that we don't normally see in the European meetings. The main focus was on IPv6 and IPv4 depletion.

At the meeting, some outreach activities, we previously had an enhanced co-operation task force which has now become a full-blown working group. This is relating to the co-operation with the governments and that sort of thing.

The general meeting which coincided with the meeting in Dubai had good attendance. 72 individual votes and the new charging scheme for 2009 was adopted and there's actually no changes to the fees. And that's been covered by an increase in membership and the fact that we are including PI space in the algorithm. And the draft budget for 2009 was approved by the board in December which is 15.3 million euro for this year.

The executive Board which has been in place since the Berlin meeting in May 2008. There were two open seats with seven candidates. That took four or five rounds of elections. The election process we have is quite arcane and long-winded and people were there for about 90 minutes, so we missed the start of the social that evening, so since that point, we've had calls for the electronic voting to come into place. The new board members we have are Andreas 'Wittkemper and Dmitry. So the NCC - we're taking care of ongoing preparations for the future. We've held several strategy workshops with the entire board and the senior management looking at scenarios and ensuring stable development during the interesting times ahead of us. And thinking of the v4 depletion.

We identified three main areas of attention and the role of the NCC and so we're going out community building, doing outreach, PR, explaining to people in Europe, Russia and the Middle East who we are and what we do and why. And trusted source of data, we're hardening the registry and the reporting tools and information services which I'll get to a little bit later.

And also the number resource life cycle management, that's the taking care of proper allocation and auditing and regulation and certification of the resources which are we are responsible for.

As an outcome of the preparations, we're developing and adjusting our priorities accordingly, so what that means is taking what we think we should be doing and doing that and applying that to the actual day-to-day operational activities. And what is keeping us busy which I'll go into in more detail.

Certification, we've developed with input from the community, there's a certification task force which is running with the RIPE meetings which is discussed the processes of how to do this. We announced back in Dubai a limited test run and we've got several dozen participants taking part in that with plans to deploy fully later this year. In the world certification, we're obviously co-ordinating with other RIRs, APNIC included to agree on semantics, processes and policies to make sure that this stuff can actually work on a global level.

In the area of policy development, there's two recent policies worthy of talking about which have been accepted. 2007-01, direct Internet resource assignments to end users from the RIPE NCC. This is accepted as of October 2008. Upholders of address space to have a contract with an LIR. We would prefer that they do that, but as a last resort, they can come to the NCC directly. And phase one to be implemented next year. And 2008/09, enabling methods for relegation of IPv4 resources accepted in December 2008.

Other policies in the queue, the provider independent IPv6 assignments for end-user organizations. Initial certification policy for provider aggregatable address space holders. Use of the final /8 and the ensuring efficient use of the historical IPv4 resources. Global policy for the allocation of IPv4 blocks for the Regional Internet Registries. All of these are available on the website.

And the information services, we run a lot of tools and services. We've got information service and we're expanding the RIS. We're beefing it up. The DNS monitoring service which I talked about on Wednesday, and we're getting some interesting data out of the anycast root server instances. In the test traffic measurements, we have new nodes from the Chinese University of Hong Kong and that was an arrangement facilitated by APNIC which was in touch with the right people there so we thank APNIC for that. There's also a new hostcount user interface released in RIPE 57 in Dubai with the collective methodology and the better visual layout.

We're doing a lot more work in information services and looking at the area and going back to the trusted source of data and co-ordinate common activities. And co-ordinating common actives for our membership and looking to deliver value to the community with obviously full support from the membership. And acting as a neutral and impartial authority on Internet data collecting data, reducing analysis. The services there are expanding the tools and data sets to help users, our members specifically to monitor and diagnose the networks and analysis services to help to optimise and forecast what they're doing.

In that area, we're collaborating more and more with the other RIR partners. We signed MoUs with AfriNIC and APNIC and LACNIC and in the more general context, we're trying to broaden the general scope with information services. We've had some preliminary discussions with APNIC and we hope to see that process further. It is nice to see from the APNIC member survey that the membership in this region supports that activity.

We're working on new database. This is the RIPE database, the actual software itself which we run. Changing the entire methodology and looking at use cases rather than elementary queries. Providing multiple views to the data for the people who have different uses for the data. Different levels of access control so we can give out what might be considered private data to those who need it and are entitled to it and keeping it away from those who aren't. More use from the user-friendly interfaces and full Unicode compliance and the phased release of instead of the Big Bang. You don't have to wait a year before all of this is going to be available.

In terms of membership in regional outreach, by the end of last year, we are 6,064 members. We host regional meetings. In the Middle East, the last one was Salmiya in Kuwait in April and Moscow in September of last year. We also work very closely with the MENOG, the Middle East Operator's Group. They came along size us for RIPE 57 in Dubai and we'll be co-locating a MENOG RIPE NCC regional meeting in Bahrain in April of this year.

We also conducted last year, a membership survey and the results are available now. It's pleasing to see that it was a good outcome from the survey and the membership are pleased and it seems like we're doing the right things and the things that people want us to be doing.

I think more on the PR and outreach. We took onboard a PR agency last year and we're working closely with them, they're called Racepoint and they're based in London. They're helping us with campaigns including stuff with IPv6 update and ASN 32 and spreading the word to the press, trying to get press releases out. Undertaking sustained briefings, ongoing briefings for the building of relationships for people like journalists to help us consistently bash our message to the community.

They're also having support for the events such as the OECD in Seoul and ITU telecom in Africa, Cairo with AfriNIC and the ITU telecom in Asia, Bangkok. And helping with the developing branding for information services.

Governments and enhanced co-operation. There is a new RIPE co-operation working group which resulted from the task force. This is co-chaired by Maria Hall and Martin Boyle. They're people formally from governments. Maria is from the Swedish Government and Martin Boyle used to work with the British Government. So the working group is actually being run by the people who know what is needed to come out of it, so that's good.

In terms of external relations, we're targeting more activities towards and with governments and putting in continued co-operation with the OECD. Some of those activities have led to a new technical program group within the OECD so that's a good outcome from that. We continue to run round-table meeting with governments and regulators and we had one in September of last year and one of Monday of last week in Amsterdam which was attended by 40 to 50 different Government representatives and they always have lots of questions for us.

We've also conducted last week, just after the Government round-table meeting, the first law enforcement collaboration workshop with law enforcement agents from around the world. We had the Dutch police and some British police, we had the FBI present. They're very interested in what we do and how we do it and there's a strong desire from both sides to have a better understanding and closer co-operation in everything that we do together.

Coming towards the end, RIPE 58 will be held in Amsterdam between may 4-8. You of course are more than welcome. Registration for that opened last week. Please come and bring your friends if you want to, and if you can't come, as with most of the RIRs, you can participate remotely and we encourage you to do that. Later in October, we'll be going to Lisbon in Portugal and in 2010, we're preparing for Prague and Rome. That's it, thank you.

AKINORI MAEMURA: Questions or comments? Thank you very much.


We will go to the final session now of the morning session which is a reminder to vote in the EC election.

PAUL WILSON: OK, to vote in the EC election - please vote!

As I mentioned before the ballot box will be open over lunch and it will close at 2pm sharp which is when we will reconvene. Could I ask for a handful of volunteers as scrutineers for the elections. As I mentioned, they should be voting members in this instance. Owen, Roque, Mark. Thank you. If you could please gather at the front here or find each other and work out how you're going to proceed, that would be great. Thank you. And I think... are you got some announcements.

SRINIVAS CHENDI: We have got to do some prize draws now. First we do the IPv6 wiki survey that Miwa Fujii will do.

MIWA FUJII: OK, thank you for your participation in the IPv6 program survey. We received 33 responses. There are many useful comments provided, thank you very much. I will refer them to increase the quality of the website and also increase the community's participation in the future.

So now, we would like to do, to conduct the lucky draw for the two prizes. I would like to have Paul's support here.

OK, Roque from LACNIC.


And the second one is Hyun-Joon Kown. Congratulations.

AKINORI MAEMURA: OK, that's all for the morning session. No! OK.

SRINIVAS CHENDI: We have more prizes to give away. This is for the Member Services launch. Thank you to those with the member services launch and we hope that all of your queries were answered and if not, you can still write to us.

Our member services manager George Kuo who is busy with the ballot box out there. So I would like to request Paul Wilson to draw more prizes from the business cards here.

Someone actually used a APNIC business card from Cisco. I thought it was APNIC staff. Niall from Cisco? Kimo.

Otherwise, Willie 'Sumo. (Sp?)


SRINIVAS CHENDI: He left. We go with STPI 'Omar 'Rye? Left? Sorry, Paul.

Neepash from Nepal. I think I saw him outside. In the tea break! I'm sure he's here. But I think we will continue doing this.

Weng Nui 'Noung (sp?). Oh, she just left. Unless someone would like to collect. Is anyone here?

OK, another one, APNIC card but it is Alastair Johnson from New Zealand. I saw him... ah, he's there.


The second one is Mr Ravi Shanker from India.

This is holding up the lunch break. Dr Ravi Shanker.

John from Monash University. Yes, he is here.


Thank you, Paul. And we go for the lunch break now and come back at 1:30? 1:45 or 2:00? Sorry, I'm looking at the desk over there, 2:00.

(End of session)

Friday 1400-1530

AKINORI MAEMURA: OK. Welcome back to the APNIC member meeting. We just finished the MoU signing ceremony with the ASTI and also the PHNOG with APNIC for the cooperation. Let's talk about the voting session again. First, OK, before that do we have some housekeeping notes? No? Then can I invite Guangliang Pan for this session.

GUANGLIANG PAN: My name is Guangliang Pan, the APNIC Resource Service Manager. I would like to give you a report on the Internet number resource status. This report is generated by five RIR resource registries.

Let's look at the IPv4, which is first. Even though we have got 256 /8s in IPv4 and this picture shows the status of all the address space. Actually, our RIRs holding 96 of /8s, IANA have 34 /8s reserved for future allocations at the end of 2008. This data actually, is up to 2008. Another slide to show you a more clear picture of what we have. Here is IANA IPv4 allocations to RIRs. In the last three years it seems that IANA allocated about 11 /8s each year and earlier this year two /8s have been allocated to RIPE NCC. The IANA pool is 32 /8s.

Let's look at the individual allocations in each RIR. Look at the yellow colour, it is APNIC. You can see APNIC's allocation seems to be going up for the last few years. It seems the allocation of the address in 2008, compared to 2007.

Let's look at the total IPv4 address allocations. In 2008 we were concerned that 12 /8s and it is a little bit less than 2007.

This graph shows a total IPv4 address space issued by each RIR in the last ten years.

The resource service manager generated this report since 1999. It is why we come up now, for the last ten years, the total allocations is here. Also, APNIC allocated more address space than other RIRs.

Moving on to the AS numbers. The AS numbers will probably refer to the network development in the region. Look at APNIC's data. We have assigned it about 700 AS numbers in 2008. Compared to other regions, RIPE NCC and ARIN, it is actually a bigger number.

Here shows the total AS numbers assigned by each RIR. ARIN and RIPE NCC also dominated the other RIRs.

Let's look at the IPv6 address space. Here shows the global IPv6 address space in full and then getting to the RIR. Each RIR received a /12 allocation from IANA. Looking to the detail of each RIR allocation, you can see 2008 the number of allocations is actually increasing. Most of the RIRs actually doubled their allocation in 2008 compared to 2007. Giving you some figures on the last three years, the total of allocation in 2006 is around 200. And the total in 2007 is around 400. And the total in 2008 is around 800. So, in the last three years, actually, the IPv6 allocations was doubled each year. This you can see the trend of IPv6 received in the global field. And the last is the total IPv6 allocations by RIRs.

The graph in the left-hand side shows the number of allocations. And the graph in the right-hand side shows the total address space. Because some of the allocation is quite large, so you can see the difference. If you need more information on this statistics you can go to the RIR website. And this file will be updated every quarter. OK, thank you any questions?

Thank you very much.

AKINORI MAEMURA: Thank you very much.


AKINORI MAEMURA: Next is the report from the ASO.

TOMOHIRO FUJISAKI: My name is Tomohiro Fujisaki. Our job is to develop global policy. And we have members, three from each region from the 15 members. And one member is appointed by the RIR Board. And the term of office is two years for elected members and one year for appointed members. And our responsibility is to advise the ICANN Board and to select ICANN Board Members and to select Nom Com members. And to select, we elect two of them. And our meeting is a monthly teleconference and one physical meeting in a year. Actually, almost all is the same as 2008.

This is the activity report, and after APNIC 26, we have all teleconferences in November and December and February this year. And in these conferences, we discuss some topics like 2009 chair. This year, Louis Lee is the chair and the RIPE NCC conduct the Secretariat job this year. And we will have a face-to-face meeting at LACNIC XII, Panama City in May. And this is one of our main jobs, global policy development and it is already reported. We have the global policy to ICANN.

This year, we nominate IP can board seat 9 and nominating committee was organized and from APNIC, AC member, Kenny is joining this nomination.

And nomination period ended last Sunday and we select the ICANN board to May 1. And this is the nomination and at the next ICANN meeting, we have the open sessions on the Monday and sessions.

This is to be held tomorrow and we also have a conference during the ICANN meeting. And minutes can be found on this site. These participate. Thank you.



Any comments if you have them.

Next are the SIG reports. Can I ask' Randy Bush as the SIG chair to share what happened. And it consists of some policy proposals and endorsements at the APNIC member meeting.

RANDY BUSH: We had the Policy SIG all day yesterday which, even though it came during member was the longest day of the year. In the policy development process, we are here. Yesterday we had the face-to-face discussions, reviewed proposals in detail and reached consensus on some proposals and not on others.

Those proposals on which we reached consensus, the exact wording of them I will present in a minute or two and Maemura-San will try to get confirmation.

Firstly in the meeting, there were two nominees, Ching-Heng Ku and David Woodgate and I extend my personal policies to Ching-Heng 'Ku. And then we discussed several proposals.

I would like to interject here that we just finished having the SIG chair's lunch, the lunch where all of the chairs of the SIGs sit together and we just tried to discuss how we could make the SIG meetings specifically a SIG policy meeting work better for multiple cultures and multiple languages, etc and we would appreciate your continued input on that.

So seven proposals, prop-050 addressed transfers. Prop-060 on changing the way NIRs get created. Prop-063 to change the time frame of IPv4 allocations window from twelve months to six.

prop-067 was a simple transfer proposal. Prop-068 was again on details of how inter-RIR transfers can be done, and then prop-069 was a policy proposal put forward by the management of all five RIRs on how IPv4 blocks would be allocated and returned from the IANA. And prop-070, a maximum IPv4 allocation size.

The following proposals were abandoned, in other words we did not support them and they moved to no longer on our agenda. They are no longer action items.

The proposals or somebody else could introduce new proposals, whereas this does not stop them. This just says that these exact proposals would no longer be considered.

Changing the criteria for recognition of the new NIRs, reducing the time frame of six allocations from a 12-month to 6-month window and the maximum IPv4 allocation size.

Proposals withdrawn by the authors, prop-067 and prop-068, two other detailed transfer proposals were withdrawn in favour of prop-050 as modified by the consensus of the meeting. So prop-050 is the transfer proposal as it goes forward with all the items it discussed and consensus reached at the meeting.

The specific policy on this is prop-050. The transfer proposal which reached consensus at the meeting is these exact words. OK and approval of the policy process and the APNIC Secretariat to implement prop-050 which says that APNIC will process IPv4 address transfer requests involving current account holders following the adoption of this proposed policy subject to the following conditions.

And the conditions that we agreed on by consensus was a minimum transfer size for /24. APNIC is to maintain a public log of all transfers. Address transfers should be permitted between APNIC account holders and NIR members, if and when individual NIRs implement the transfer policy.

OK, address transfers are permitted between APNIC account holders and other RIR account holders following the policies of all respective RIRs. The proposal to take effect as soon as the APNIC Secretariat can implement the mechanisms of the policy.

I might explain these two a little more which is - the transfer proposals are allowed between APNIC holders and NIR members when individual NIRs implement the policy and that is to allow the NIRs time to work the policy's effect on their relationship in their countries, laws, ministries, etc. So it let's the NIRs opt-in when they are ready and lastly, the transfers are permitted between people in different RIRs and that's... sorry about that. And so that's so that you can get address space from somebody in the ARIN region if they meet the sending criteria of the ARIN region and you meet the criteria of the region.

Shall I go through them all? Or shall we do them one by one?

AKINORI MAEMURA: Let's put it together, please. Let's put it...

RANDY BUSH: On everything, OK, thank you. The next one was prop-069, global policy proposal for the allocation of IPv4 blocks to regional Internet registries. We asked the proposers to please clarify two things. Could they state the minimum size for the redistributions of IANA, and could they give some examples of how IANA would redistribute the space. So we expect the proposal as posted to the mailing list in a few days to - we hope contain the clarifications and like all the proposals we've passed at this meeting, we have eight weeks to discuss them on the mailing list until those people who aren't at the meeting but who are reading the mailing list have the opportunity to also reach consensus. And that was what was passed at the Policy SIG meeting.

Thank you. If anybody has any questions or clarification? Thank you, OK, thanks.

AKINORI MAEMURA: I think this is the time for us to ask you for endorsement in the policy proposal as a consensus, as the SIG policy made in that session. So can I have... the slides?

OK then, let me make sure that we have the two proposals which is seeking the endorsement? Is that correct, Randy?


AKINORI MAEMURA: I would like to ask you for a show of hands if you are in favour of endorsing this policy proposal as a consensus. Please raise your hands? In favour? For the endorsement. Counting? No need for counting, no, OK. Thank you very much.

Those who are against for the endorsement of this policy proposal, please raise your against, against.

GEOFF HUSTON: Is that your hand up?

AKINORI MAEMURA: No, thank you very much. OK, here I see the clear consensus for the endorsement of this policy proposal which is reached to the consensus in the Policy SIG. Thank you very much. Next.

According to the action item pol-o27-002. Prop-069, global policy proposal for the allocation of IPv4 blocks to regional Internet registries. It is now receiving the endorsement. Please raise your hand those who are in favour to endorse this policy proposal as a consensus. Raise your hands please.

OK, thank you very much. And those who are against to endorse this policy proposal as a consensus, please raise your hands against. For prop-069. I didn't raise my hand. Thank you very much. Then we see the clear consensus for prop-069. Thank you very much. OK, we had we've just done the endorsement from the Policy SIG. Now I am inviting Izumi Okutani for providing the report from the NIR SIG.

IZUMI OKUTANI: Izumi Okutani. I would like to give you a brief update of what we had discussed in NIR SIG which was a session held on Wednesday this week for 90 minutes. Well, as you can see from the name, it is the SIG that discusses the exchange of NIR activities and the SIG chairs are myself, Ching-Heng 'Ku from TWNNIC and Billy Chen. And we had 20 attendees and 19 remote participants so roughly 40 participants in total.

We have done five presentations on the day from CNNIC, KRNIC and the last was not from a NIC, but what's called an organization called policy working group from Japan. So as you can see from this, you don't have to be an NIR to submit a presentation in NIR SIG. It is open to everybody, and participation is also open as well. And just to briefly share the topics of discussions. TWNIC has introduced the status for to transfer to 4 byte ASN in Taiwan and TWNIC has been doing a lot of outreach activities to let the communities know about the situation, and they've also invited Cisco and the ISPs about the status, the vendor status and the ISPs are there to raise more awareness within the community. And they've also prepared a migration report to have a model case on how each ISPs can get themselves prepared for the operation. That was a report from TWNIC. And we've also had an introduction on KRNIC and VNNIC prepare themselves for IPv6 deployment in their economies. And what KRNIC has been doing as well. This is the list of the activities they are doing and what I found interesting was that they have set up an organization or a body called Centre which keeps track of activities and how they're going to transfer to IPv6, not just related to a certain industry group but as an integrated plan as an industry, how they are going to make this happen before the IPv4 address exhaustion. They're also looking at the legal frame work and providing business models.

And the introduction from VNNIC is that they've been providing training and education from IPv6, doing co-ordination with governments and MIC and getting themselves prepared in terms of the network as well and they've set up a IPv6 task force in January this year.

And the introduction from the policy working group in Japan is that they've introduced policy co-ordination. Policy co-ordination is between Japan's policy forum and APNIC's policy forum, which you must have seen a bit of it in the Policy SIG yesterday. Well, we do have our own policy forum and then we try to co-ordinate the discussions in Japan and then share the discussions in the APNIC region and vice versa.

And lastly, there was a general update of activities from CNNIC. They've shared the statistics on IPv4 and IPv6 allocations and the current IPv4 address space they hold if I calculate is 2.2 /8 blocks and they've been holding seminars and they've also been collaborating with industry bodies to make people aware of IPv4 exhaustion, that they need to move forward to IPv6, etc. So, these were the topics that have been discussed in the NIR SIG. Any questions?

AKINORI MAEMURA: Any comments?


OK, that's all for the SIG reports. And now we will have the network report from Martin. Is he ready? No? Who's next, just skip it. Skipping then makes us in open discussion. So open discussion, you can raise anything you want. If you have a question, please proceed to the microphone. Yes please.

DAVID WOODGATE: David Woodgate Telstra. I just wanted to ask a question about the presentation on the NRO stats. I was interested in noticing the IPv4 allocations in ARIN and RIPE sort of appearing to either level off or drop off. I would be interested in feedback from RIPE or ARIN, or RIPE and ARIN as to whether they would see the behaviours continue into the future or whether what behaviours they expect?

AKINORI MAEMURA: Is it clear enough for you to answer?

FILIZ YILMAZ: Obviously there is some talk for the number of new members you get and the number of allocations on the numbers but in general, I would like also to mention that in 2007, we had a policy change in the RIPE region which made it very, much more flexible, let's put it that way. And some areas of policy and there was a huge peak from then, and I think in time now, it is kind of getting to some saturation level in our region, but we don't consider it as a drop off in the number of allocations.


FILIZ YILMAZ: Does that answer the question.

DAVID WOODGATE: Yes, it was interesting to notice the comparison with the AS numbers in RIPE as against the IP addresses that we're down to now, because it looks like AS numbers are still going up and being allocated. Thank you very much.


AKINORI MAEMURA: Anything else, questions? Comments? No? Then if there is no questions or comments, then I would like to invite Wendy Zhao for the presentation about APNIC 28. Wendy is from CNNIC who is generously hosting APNIC 28 which is to be held in Beijing in August.

WENDY ZHAO: OK, hello everyone. Thank you for the opportunity. I'm Wendy'Zhao from CNNIC. I would like to take the chance to invite everybody here and also including some who can not attend these meetings to attend the APNIC meeting hosted in Beijing this August. First of all, I would like to share some information with everybody here to give you a rough idea of what's going to happen in the next meeting.

I will start with the travelling. I do believe lots of you have booked your vacation in August, combined with this meeting but that's a brilliant idea. And in China, I do believe some of you have been to China, but maybe only in the bigger cities like Beijing. There are interesting places you can visit before and after the meeting. If you are a friend of mountain climbing, you will always find a place to put your footprint on. And next is the city we're going to host in August, is the capital, Beijing.

There's the capital, Beijing has been the capital for the last 600 years, so there's lots of cultures and history in there, so going to Beijing, you can have a very close touch with history with China including the Great Wall which a lot of people know and the Forbidden City and the facilities that were set up for the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games like the Bird's Nest.

And third is the culture, we all believe that China has, we all agree that China has a very rich culture, so people can take their time to experience the local culture between the Beijing opera and the Shadow Play.

And also, most important thing is the food, and we know Chinese food is part of culture of China, for a certain time and the food tastes actually, the actually the Chinese food you taste in China will be much different with the Chinese food you get from the take away around your corner! But when you come back, do carry on with the take away, because that's all you're only choice.

The meeting is going to be hosted in the Grand Hyatt Beijing, which is the one of the finest hotels in Beijing. The hotel has over 825 rooms and suites. We have a 55 metre indoor swimming pool with a virtual sky. So spend some evening time to have experiences there.

For the meeting facility, ideally we can carry around as many attendees as possible in that hotel so you are more than happy bringing your colleagues and boss, and maybe if you want a holiday, you can bring your kids here.

And other options, because the Hyatt Hotel is in the centre of Beijing, and we have a lot of other options for people who won't be able to book their hotel in the Hyatt. Those hotels are very close to the venue. The first one only about 2.5 miles away, so you won't have the traffic problems to get to the venue in the evening. But if you want to stay in the venue, book as early as possible.

Social events - we really want to people to experience something different in China, sorry in Beijing's meeting so we have found a place with quite a long history in that people can have a good place. Sorry, it's a good place to demonstrate the Chinese classical habitation. Also, it's a good chance to experience the local Quyi'Performances. You will see that when you get there.

Getting your visa, it could be a pain in the ass, but if you apply it, ASAP, you will see lots save lots of hassles. Remember, I will always be here if you need any help. If you find my e-mail address somewhere on the meeting website, but there is a little bit of information I need to share. But there's three different types of visa. L Visa and the F Visa and the J2 Visa. Choose wisely for the one that is convene yen for you and also there is a website and you can check.

Do start applying for your visa early and check with the local embassy and say you're going to China and find out which way is the easiest way. OK, that is all I'm going to bring to you.

AKINORI MAEMURA: Thank you very much, Wendy.


What is coming next?

GERMAN VALDEZ: Thank you, Wendy and thank you CNNIC for hosting the APNIC meeting 28. We are really aiming high with this meeting. We are expecting that we can break a new record in the number of levels for Beijing and I think given the current situation with the Internet, we are living history in the process from transitioning from one Internet Protocol to the other one. And having the high consumption of IPv4, and one of the countries which is very ambitious for v6, we are very lucky to have them hosting this meeting. And you can wait for this meeting with the traditional training sessions or the debates and of course the member meeting, the policy debates.

To help us to bring this meeting to you, this is the call for sponsorship. And we are also looking for any interest to sponsor APNIC 28, please feel free to contact Louise Flynn or Wendy'Zhao.

For more information, go to the website or e-mail. And I am very happy to announce officially the APNIC 28 website which is now online. This is the real kick off in preparation for Beijing. There is a lot of information still to be updated, but the website is live. We are constantly uploading information about the confirm of social events and the confirmation of key note speaker and once we have started to receive the policy proposals, they will be updated on the agenda.

See you all in Beijing. I would like to show you the website. And the website, is updated frequently for the information. We can start to receive soon. And I would like to show you a promotional video.

(Video plays)


GERMAN VALDEZ: It was almost at the end of the video. It was saying that it will be open soon and we will display the link to the website and feel free to the website and the video will be uploaded there if you want to see it.

SPEAKER FROM THE FLOOR: It is already on YouTube!

GERMAN VALDEZ: Excellent. So it is now on YouTube so feel free to look for this video there. And once again, thank you to CNNIC for the welcoming of this community and see you all in Beijing. Thank you.


AKINORI MAEMURA: So, if you have any questions or comments?

PAUL WILSON: The results of the election are still coming. We should, while we're talking about future meetings also mention that not only do we have APNIC 28 coming up in Beijing, but we also have APNIC 29 coming up in one year, that's with APRICOT 2010 and that will be in KL. And we will also have the next meeting after that, APNIC 31 if I can count which will be in Hong Kong as we probably all heard last night, the APRICOT 2011 will be in Hong Kong.

The other thing you should know is that with meeting, we also announce corporate proposals for APNIC 30 which will be in 18 months time from now or so. We have no idea yet where we will be in August 2010 and if anyone is interested in making a bid, then you can certainly get in touch with the APNIC staff at the Secretariat or the member site, meetings at to register your interest in APNIC 2010.

I think we can move on here to say thanks to all of the sponsors of this meeting of APNIC 27. It's been a pretty successful meeting in terms of the number of attendees that we've had. Another successful meeting within a very busy APRICOT week, so thanks should be extended to everyone who was involved in sponsoring, supporting, running APRICOT 2009. And specifically to the sponsors of APNIC 27. So in particular, we had two major sponsors of the social events and they were Google and Hurricane Electric. So let's say thanks to them.


We would certainly love to see Google and Hurricane Electric back next time. So we'll in be touch, thanks!

The policy day sponsor yesterday was CNNIC, so thank you very much to CNNIC and we'll be seeing you in six months time.


And the sponsors for today for the APNIC Member's Meeting, jointly JPNIC, KRNIC of NIDA and TWNIC, and thank you again for your ongoing support.


We had this thing called an Internet governance Pulong which was an Internet governance and we have done that in the past with the Internet Society, so thank you for the Internet Society for their co-operation on that event.


And the sponsors for the event were CNNIC, TWNIC, APTLD and NII so thank you very much.


So we've had remote participation happening in two separate venues in Fiji and also in Colombo. So PITA, the Pacific Islands Telecom Association was very kind and very co-operative and enthusiastic to host the event in Fiji and like wise, Dialog Telekom. So thank you to those sponsors and thank you to those who gathered at those events too to watch this meeting from afar, and also to Ellie and Champika for going and helping out with the events.


And more thanks go to the ever hard working SIG chairs, Izumi and Randy. And also to the co-chairs of course. The Stenocaptioners, also ever-suffering and hard working, Emer and Rebekah from Red Bee in Australia.


They are responsible as you would see for the text that's being displayed here, and we always get a lot of comments during the week about how incredible these computers are. These days they can understand words and type them up so fast and... so no, they're not computer s, they're two hard workers down on the front here and they do make the event a lot easier to follow as you may or may not know, the text has been streaming out online as well, so you may not have looked at the remote participation, but via the website, you can watch the video, you can listen to the audio and you can watch this as it is all happening. So that's all thanks to the stenos.

Also in particular to the APNIC staff who have organized the stuff. And I should say thanks to all of the APNIC staff who g for all of the hard work that goes into the meeting. And also the hard working EC members and the colleagues from the other RIRs who are travelling from across the world for being here.

And thank you to everyone who is in the room, thank you to everyone who is watching online or watching or reading the steno transcripts there or listening. Otherwise participating. It's great to have what is a very respectable face-to-face attendance at this meeting here and we seem to be setting records in the remote participation as well with the number of people who are coming in to the Jabber rooms and watching the video.

So the local sponsor for - the local host for APNIC, APRICOT 2009 is ASTI from the Philippines and so signed the MoU for co-operation with Dennis earlier, so we should say thank you very much to ASTI as well.


And thank you, to Alvin the local host. Thank you.


OK, we've heard about the next meetings, APNIC 28 in Beijing and 24th to the 28th of August which is online and you saw almost all of it. And you need to go back and see the rest of it. The sponsors for that meeting, we do hope that the sponsors for APNIC 27 have seen some good value and received some good coverage in this event and we really would like to see you back for APNIC 28. So, you'll hear from us about that for sure and don't doubt it.


Kuala 'Lumpur, the 1st to the 5th of March in 2010 with APRICOT as usual.

And APNIC 30, a call for proposals. Here is the e-mail address. Send any enquiries if you're interested in just expressing an intent or an interest or if you're interested in more information about how to go about hosting that APNIC meeting, just send us an e-mail and as it says here, in late August/September 2010. You know, place to be announced. And as I mentioned before, the Hong Kong meeting as well will be at APRICOT 2011.

So, we are at nearly the end of this meeting, but before the end of the meeting, we are going to be announcing the winners of the EC election and I've been watching the countdown as I've been up here talking and we're down to five minutes.

So what will we do with five minutes?

SAMANTHA DICKENSON: Watch the video in full.

LOUISE FLYNN: Tell a joke.

PAUL WILSON: My jokes last longer than five minutes.

KUO-WEI WU: Dance on the stage!

PAUL WILSON: Please! We have a volunteer here! You should have done it during the election speech! Let's show the video again. Let's do a Windows software update, that will take five minutes!

AKINORI MAEMURA: Yes, APNIC - this is on YouTube. And APNIC, you can search for APNIC and then maybe you can find a lot of video clips which is there in APNIC or something else in You Tube.

(Video plays)

PAUL WILSON: This of the recent RIPE meeting.

VOICE-OVER: So the vague thing this week of IPv4 and IPv6 which has been mentioned once or twice, so I thought that I would offer you my take on it to a possibly recognizable tune.

(Sings to the theme of 'American Pie')

# A long, long time ago
# I can still remember
# When my laptop could connect us
# And I tell you all there was a day
# The network card I threw away
# Had a purpose and it worked for you and me
# But 18 years completed wasted
# With each address we've aggregated
# The tables overflowing
# The traffic just stops flowing!
# And now we're bearing all the scars
# And all my trace routes showing stars
# And I just wish I went faster in cars
# The day the routers died!
# So bye, bye folks at RIPE 55
# Be persuaded to upgrade or your network will die
# IPv6 makes me laugh and let out a sigh
# But I suppose we'd better give it a try
# I suppose we'd better give it a try
# Now did you write the RFC
# That dictated how we all should be
# Did we listen like we should that day
# Now at RIPE 54
# Where we heard the same thing once before
# And the people knew that they had to change the way
# And we knew with all the ISPs
# Could be future proof-
# But that was NANOG now
# Oh the time of the IRC
# Making jokes on how they would be
# Now there's more use for TCP
# The day the routers died
# So we were singing bye, bye folks at RIPE 55
# Be persuaded to upgrade or your network will try
# IPv6 just makes me laugh and sigh
# But I suppose we'd better give it a try
# Suppose we'd better give it a try
# And remember in the old days
# Sitting in my room downloading porn
# And that's how it used to be!
# Well the packet loads from A to B
# And could talk IP
# That was data, could be exchanged between you and me
# Oh but, I could see you all ignore
# The fact we'd fill up on IPv4
# But we all lost the nerve
# And we got what we deserved!
# And while we threw our network kit away
# And wished we'd heard the things they say
# Put all our lives in disarray
# The day... the routers died!
# We were singing bye, bye folks at RIPE 55
# Be persuaded to upgrade it or your network will die
# # IPv6 just makes me let out a sigh
# But I suppose we'd better give it a try
# Saw a man with whom I used to peer
# Asked him to rescue my career
# He just sighed and turned away
# I went down to the net cafe
# That I used to visit everyday
# But the man there said I might as well just leave
# Now we're all lost our importance
# My Cisco share's completely worthless!
# No future meetings for me!
# And the hotel kasnapolski
# And we'll never make it hush and push
# Like Geoff Huston and Randy Bush
# Should have listened To our what they told us
# The day the routers died
# And they were singing bye, bye folks at RIPE 55
# Be persuaded to upgrade or your network will die
# IPv6 just let's me let out a sigh
# But I suppose we'd better give it a try


RANDY BUSH: That was the first RIPE meeting ever. And he sang that there.

PAUL WILSON: I think we, after all that we still don't have a result. I think the coffee is served. And so, those of you who are waiting for a result, should be able to see it after the coffee break. So let's break for 10 minutes. And we'll have something to announce after that.

PAUL WILSON: I think we can reconvene the meeting for this last very short announcement for the results. So we have a result.

CATHY HANDLER: I'm from ARIN and I hand this to you, Paul and thank you for the opportunity and I apologize, we wanted to make sure that we had everything right so we recounted.

PAUL WILSON: OK, the results are here of the total ballots counted from 228 and the total ballot balance was 227. So just one invalid. Four successful candidates.

The first name is Jian Zhang, 1,527, James Spenceley 1,468, Kuo-Wei Wu 1355, Hyun-Joon Kwon 1,077.

I'm sure you've heard enough from me, thank you to everyone who needs to be thanked. Thank you to all of you in particular for your patience in particular for being here and I look forward, we look forward to seeing you in Beijing. That's the end of APNIC 27.

AKINORI MAEMURA: OK so thank you very much and I have really a few words. Thank you very much. That is all for the APNIC open policy member and the APNIC member meeting. Thank you very much.


SRINIVAS CHENDI: Those who are registered for the dinner tonight, the buses will leave from the lobby at 6:00. Please be there on time so we can start the dinner at 7:00 and it is the Harbour View Restaurant. It is not in this hotel, we're going to go away from the hotel and enjoy the night. Thank you.

(End of meeting)

AKINORI MAEMURA: All of the Executive Council members, please get together in front of the table, please.